Barry Mcguigan thinks Edwin Valero should never fight again..what do you think?

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  1. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/colum...-ring-for-the-sake-of-boxing-115875-22039494/

    Like everyone else I started watching Valero on youtube surprised at his lack of technical ability in his earlier fights but amazed by the bombs in his gloves.

    I knew about the plate in his skull and the brain bleed he suffered but still wanted to see him get his license and fight in the states.

    The KO merchant with the hole in his head brings excitement but what if the worst case scenario happened, Would it be bad for boxing?

    Surely he's a grown man who should be able to make his own decision.

    If something bad did happen boxing could point to the fact he knew about his injury and decided to take that chance.

    It's his life, his career choice. He still has the tools to work in the ring so should he be allowed to?
     
  2. TehRileh

    TehRileh HUDDERSFIELD TOWN FC Full Member

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    I agree its his life, but lets say he did die in the ring, you think thats fair on the boxer who kills him? It will affect him for the rest of his life.
     
  3. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Barry knows all about having blood on his hands in the ring, he is better qualified then anyone to tell you about the guilt at having killed a man. Lets be honest if Valero were to die as a result of his injuries it would be a catastophe. I don't think he should be permitted to box either.
     
  4. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    If he passes a stringent physical there's no reason for him to be denied a licence to fight.

    From then on, it's his choice, and also whether the opponent wants to fight him.

    Holyfield suffered a form of a heart attack against Moorer and had to undergo the most demanding examination ever to be able to fight again.

    Even Tommy Morrison fought last year, how ****ed up is that?
     
  6. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think there's that much more risk of Valero carking it than anyone else. The lack of a license in the US appears to be more to do with his openly pro-Chavez Venezuelan politics than any huge physical danger.

    He's a cracking fighter who's got a lot of skills that he uses when he needs to. The De Marco performance was fantastic.
     
  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    If he can't pass a legit medical then he shouldn't be allowed to fight. MAB has a plate in his head. The doctors need to decide if its right or wrong.
     
  8. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    I don't agree with the over-dramatic headline (that I doubt McGuigan wrote) but he makes some good points. I have to confess to being dismissive when I first saw the article yesterday, but now I'm not sure. It's so difficult and I don't have a definitive answer.
     
  9. Top Dog

    Top Dog Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. Any top end boxer out there cold get bleeding on the brain if he was extremely unlucky, not sure if a plate would make much difference. Its his choice at the end of the day
     
  10. Bennythelegs

    Bennythelegs New Member Full Member

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    If he continues to progress and makes people money then he will get his licence....

    It doesnt sit right with me personally though
     
  11. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting views, thanks. :goodI hadn't thought of the impact emotionally for the opposing fighter that does the damage.

    Like you say though a blow to the head could cause a brain injury to any fighter. As long as he passes the tests required within that state then he has every right to fight.
     
  12. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    As long as he passes strict tests to determine any ill effects from his injury then who are we to determine wether he should fight, i personally agree with Barry Mcguigan and hes obviously well placed to talk about these things but Valero has found something hes very good at and as long as hes operating at a high level there will always be that risk factor which is probably higher than the average boxers
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I don't think it's any worse giving him a licence than a journeyman on a run of early KO losses - who really are accidents waiting to happen.
     
  14. Mr. V.I.P.

    Mr. V.I.P. Boxing Addict banned

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    He thinks everyone should quit boxing after a questionable stoppage from dave parris to which he says what the right thing to do.
     
  15. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    If he is passing the medical requirements to fight then he should be allowed to fight.