Based Soley On Resume Who Ranks Higher Holyfield Or Corbett?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The Sullivanv Kilrain fight was under London Prize Ring Rules.
    How many of Kilrain's fights were under Queensbury rules?
    Kilrain's previous 2 fights prior to Corbett were a win over a debutee and a draw with a guy who was 0-1-0.
    Of his last 21 fights he had actually won 10 the others were no decisions or draws.
    Corbett actually has only 2 wins over good heavyweights Sullivan who hadn't fought in 4.5years and Kilrain.
    Mitchell was a middleweight ,McCaffrey a super middle,McCoy a super middle, Choynski then a middleweight. Corbett was ko'd by a middleweight Fitz, and beaten by a light heavy Sharkey.
    McCaffrey was beaten by 5'8" middleweight Dempsey who, a year later scaled 151lbs for a fight .
     
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  2. mcvey

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    The Sullivanv Kilrain fight was under London Prize Ring Rules.How many of Kilrain's fights were under Queensbury rules? Kilrains previous 2 fights prior to Corbett were a win over a debutee and a draw with a guy who was 0-1-0 Of his last 21 fight he had actually won 10 the others were no decisions or draws.Corbett actually has only 2 wins over good heavyweights Sullivan who hadn't fought in 4.5years and Kilrain.
    Mitchell was a middleweight ,McCaffrey a super middle,McCoy a super middle, Choynski then a middleweight. Corbett was ko'd by a middleweight Fitz, and beaten by a light heavy Sharkey.
    McCaffrey was beaten by 5'8" middleweight Dempsey who a year later scaled 151lbs for a fight .










     
  3. mcvey

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    ATG's don't have 23-17-4 records with 13 ko losses. Goddard has a decent chance against Corbett , but that doesn't make him a great fighter.
     
  4. janitor

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    You are focusing too much on the weight of the fighters, and the possibly partial records.

    What you should be focusing on is what those fights meant.

    What was their relevance in the division at the time?
     
  5. Boilermaker

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    Thats a bit misleading He only won about one out of his last 18 or so fights. But before that, he had a very good record.

    He has wins over Mick Dooley, Joe Choynski, Tom Lees, McAuliffe, Peter Maher etc to match the draw with Peter Jackson. It wasnt until he met up with Tom Sharkey that his career went bad. Still, he fought only top quality fighters trhoughouthis career. At his best, he had as good a record as most others. At the risk of adding to your argument, he probably has a better record than Corbett!

    In 70s terms, if you acknowledge that Jackson was thought of about as highly as Ali, which he was, then Goddard was probably somewhere around the level of a Ken Norton, or somewhere not too far behind this.
     
  6. mcvey

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    I'm focusing on the fact that 4 of Corbett's most famous wins were over middleweights !
    Let me put it another way if I had included Bobby Czyz's 5 round defeat by Holyfield as a significant win for Holyfield you would have been down on me like a ton of bricks yet at 211lbs ,[the same weight as Evander,]Czyz outweighed McCoy,Choynski,McCaffrey,and Mitchell by, in some cases,over 40 pounds!
    ps The division was sh*t, Corbett was a big fish in a tiny pond in an era when a 5 fight nobody could be a contender and the standout challenger Jackson could be ignored because of his colour.The very fact that 150lbs Dempsey was being considered as a challenegr for Sullivan speaks volumes for the depth of the division.
     
  7. mcvey

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    In repliment to your missive of the information that was provided whereas Nelson was not effective as a boxer because handicap of one eye and one arm so limited was he severely to single punches thrown . It is known well that bar knuckle fighters are irrelevant because they are barred, therefore so you just make more said that are not the truth but tales of fairies. Once again I triumph!
     
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  8. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's not nice (though pretty funny, I must admit!).
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    If you don't think its warranted look at the post directly below it!
     
  10. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do think it's warranted - I actually gave it a "Like".
     
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