Battle of the 90's Journeymen, Cooper vs Thunder

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Bonecrusher, Apr 12, 2016.


Page 2 of 4
  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    51,134
    25,318
    Jan 3, 2007

    I know and I have many of the same fond memories myself. I went to a rather large high school and I think there were maybe 4 or 5 other dudes who watched the same channels and followed the sport as intently as I did. no one else really gave fvck. Speaking of Terry Davis I remember when he was an undefeated prospect and somewhere I saw him get beat by Lionel Washington. Don't remember what network or if it was a recording. Washington was a tough customer too. Bruce seldon getting upset by McCall. Witherspoon knocking out the giant Ecklund with one Punch. A washed up Pinklon being out boxed by Mike Hunter. The list of craziness goes on and on.. I can remember sneaking a six pack of beer which some older friends bought me, into my house under my parents noses and watching the fights while drinking some cold ones. Not only was it a great era and evironment for boxing but a reminder of my youth and everything that went on at the time.
     
    mr. magoo, Apr 13, 2016
    mr. magoo, Apr 13, 2016
    #16
  2. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,832
    6,601
    Dec 10, 2014
    You were lucky to find 4 or 5 boxing nuts.

    I was a lone wolf.

    My friends would see me reading boxing magazines and just shake their heads.

    They'd only watch HBO fights and sometimes the free ones on network TV.
     
    Saad54, Apr 13, 2016
    Saad54, Apr 13, 2016
    #17
  3. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

    3,721
    1,294
    Sep 14, 2013
    TNF = best boxing show EVER. Loved Al Alberts and "the champ! Sean OGrady".

    I can still here Al going "ooohh!" when a big shot would land. And yes he could be a bit of a wiseass at times, man what a great show that was
     
    RacingBeat, Apr 13, 2016
    RacingBeat, Apr 13, 2016
    #18
  4. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,832
    6,601
    Dec 10, 2014
    One of the best fights they ever had was the "Fans pick the matchup" s**** between former champ. Livingstone Bramble and prospect Oba Carr.

    I also liked the mid '80's Top Rank Boxing on ESPN when Al Berstein was the main announcer

    The later version with loud mouthed Teddy Atlas wasn't as good.
     
    Saad54, Apr 13, 2016
    Saad54, Apr 13, 2016
    #19
  5. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,121
    6,952
    Sep 8, 2013
    Wow you guys are bringing back some great memories. I loved TNF. Never missed a show. The up and coming heavyweights Like Alex Garcia and hard hitting (but poorly conditioned) samoan knockout artist Samson Po'uha. Who can forget Andrew Golota giving us a glimpse of things to come in the future when Po'uha had Golota rocked and in serious trouble only to have the dirty Golota spit out his mouthpiece and bite Po'uha's neck. (He actually drew blood) Instead of getting (properly) disqualified, they let the fight go on and Samson ran out of gas a few rounds later.
     
    Smokin Bert, Apr 13, 2016
    Smokin Bert, Apr 13, 2016
    #20
  6. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,121
    6,952
    Sep 8, 2013
    Man, Bramble - Carr was a great fight! (especially on free tv) Sometimes an over the hill fighter still has one great performance left in him. I went to the fight between Oba Carr and Ike Quartey at MSG. After seeing how much trouble Oba had with Bramble, I thought Ike was going to steamroll him. But, Oba gave Ike all he could handle that night.
     
    Smokin Bert, Apr 13, 2016
    Smokin Bert, Apr 13, 2016
    #21
  7. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

    3,429
    1,161
    Jul 19, 2004

    Yeah I went to a fairly large school, well it seems large to me we had close to 500 kids in my actual grade, maybe that's not big but we are the biggest fish in my surrounding Area.

    My core friends, 6 of us, all boxing fans but only me and my best friend were super fans. As in record everything, buy all the mags and there were tons back then, KO, The Ring, Boxing Illustrated, Boxing Scene, Boxing 96' (or whatever year) on and on. The larger group gathered for PPV I remember having close to 50 people at the house sometimes for PPV, thanks mom and dad for paying for all that and having the space lol.. When I say we taped everything that's not an exaggeration if it was ESPN or an channel talking boxing REC was happening. Some of the major fights I've got tapes and tapes full of just pre fight, the sport was covered to the max back then. I really need to tranfer my best stuff over.

    Washington I remember that same cat losing to Weaver via KO1 on Fight Night at the great western forum!

    Seldon losing to McCall, awesome McCall we'd heard and read about but rarely seen him since this was kinda his first big tv win. We knew he was Tysons sparring partner

    Spoon - Eklund classic!!!! Spoon fought on TNF all the time!!! Love the Art Tucker KO at the Blue Horizon that place was phenomenal

    HUNTER VS PINKLON was on the undercard of Booker T Words shocking KO1 over hometown hero Anthony Hembrick

    Guys like Jesse Ferguson starting as a contender beating guys like Buster Douglas and much later Ray Mercer and then even getting a title shot vs Bowe while being a journeyman in between before and After..

    Golota biting Pouha
    James Toney coming in the ring after being called out by Tyrone Trice.
    Louis Monoco who was knocked out in 1 by Butterbean knocking out Buster Douglas in 1 but getting screwed
    Butler upsetting Tubbs via ko1

    So many great memories dude
     
    Bonecrusher, Apr 13, 2016
    Bonecrusher, Apr 13, 2016
    #22
  8. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

    3,429
    1,161
    Jul 19, 2004
    Yeah when it was Berstein and Barry Tompkins that was awesome
     
    Bonecrusher, Apr 13, 2016
    Bonecrusher, Apr 13, 2016
    #23
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,559
    Jul 28, 2004
    Cooper takes this one, and by stoppage, because he was the better, all around fighter with a more developed ****nal as well as a more sophisticated delivery system. He might get hurt a few times by Thunder, but would weather the storm, survive, and return the favor, hurting and stopping Johnny by the 8th round.
     
    red cobra, Apr 13, 2016
    red cobra, Apr 13, 2016
    #24
  10. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

    3,429
    1,161
    Jul 19, 2004
    Garcia looked like a killer and then he lost to Mike Dixon on TNF of course via ko2 and then Garring Lane also ko2 and was never the same!! I remember he was ranked in the top 5 at the time!!
     
    Bonecrusher, Apr 13, 2016
    Bonecrusher, Apr 13, 2016
    #25
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,832
    6,601
    Dec 10, 2014
    And then if I remember, Dixon became a steppingstone because of that one good win.

    Some guys recover from a surprise upset to have good careers, but not Garcia.
     
    Saad54, Apr 13, 2016
    Saad54, Apr 13, 2016
    #26
  12. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    Cooper. Bet on it.
     
    fists of fury, Apr 13, 2016
    fists of fury, Apr 13, 2016
    #27
  13. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    Remember that fight well.
     
    fists of fury, Apr 13, 2016
    fists of fury, Apr 13, 2016
    #28
  14. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    This thread rocks. Loved the nostalgia guys.
     
    fists of fury, Apr 13, 2016
    fists of fury, Apr 13, 2016
    #29
  15. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

    3,429
    1,161
    Jul 19, 2004
    Yeah I remember he fought Phil Jackson (another fringe 90's contender) and word was if he could pull another upset he would possibly get a title shot against Lennox Lewis as they were looking for a soft touch for that defense.. Well he lost to Jackson and then Jackson got that shot vs Lewis. Yeah Dixon then settled back into his role of opponent.

    How about Marion Wilson I think the first time I saw him he was fighting a heavyweight named Boris Powell 3-0 at the time and I think Wilson was 5-0.. BP was from St. Louis which is close to my home town here so I was familiar with Powell. It was one of those tweener fights on ESPN top rank but of course I taped it because I taped the entire show every week. Well Wilson went on to fight everyone, finishing with a 12win 41 loss record. But I saw him get a draw vs Mercer which he probably deserved the win and I also remember him dropping Jeremy Williams on his face and cutting him at a time when many thought Jeremy Williams was the second coming of Mike Tyson!! Williams had Kevin Rooney training him and Bill Cayton managing (just like early Tyson) and he basically stalked around the ring pre fight just like Tyson looking mean and again doing his best Tyson menacing impression, and Jeremy Williams could punch like a monster, sadly he just couldn't take a punch!!!
     
    Bonecrusher, Apr 13, 2016
    Bonecrusher, Apr 13, 2016
    #30
Page 2 of 4