Battle of the Boogeymans : Langford vs Ortiz

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Langford vs Ortiz

  1. Langford Decision

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  2. Ortiz Decision

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  3. Langford Knockout

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  4. Ortiz Knockout

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  1. johny

    johny New Member Full Member

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    Both were avoided . who wins Sam Langford or Luis Ortiz
     
    johny, Jul 28, 2020
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Langford by KO. Good fight.
     
    70sFan865, Jul 28, 2020
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ortiz is a very good boxer, but we know that one punch can end his night if he's timed and countered.

    He'd have to fight tall, rangy and safety first to beat Langford, but I can't help but feel Tham only needs one opportunity and he'll get it.
     
    lufcrazy, Jul 28, 2020
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ortiz very easily.
     
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  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody beats peak Langford very easily. He's GOAT candidate for a reason.
     
    70sFan865, Jul 28, 2020
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  6. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz because Langford wasn’t a natural heavyweight and Ortiz is far too evolved
     
    Devon, Jul 28, 2020
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Considering Langford wasn't a natural HW he knocked out all the best HW fighters who'd get in the ring with him.

    Too evolved? What is it Ortiz does better than Langford in your opinion?
     
    lufcrazy, Jul 28, 2020
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  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that @Devon was sarcastic here.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    No there's an increasing amount of posters who favour the modern fighter without actually watching the older fighter fight.

    People watching Langford and Ortiz and concluding Ortiz is better, fine by me, its a subjective sport.

    But people not watching them and just going with the modern guy, it just isn't right lol.
     
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  10. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz has better technique, picks his punches better, far bigger, sharper counterpunching, I don’t see what Langford can do with him, he was a lightweight who became a heavyweight, nobody could have success doing that today because boxers are better schooled and know how to use their size advantage, boxers from the early 1900s are sloppy compared to modern fighters and would be picked apart by good Boxers of today, boxers weren’t taught as well back then and trainers didn’t have nearly as good knowledge as they have today because boxing had just started really, do you really believe Langford would beat Ortiz or is it just wishful thinking?
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    Which fights have you watched of the two that convince you Ortiz is a sharper counter puncher?

    Langford knocked out Tiger Flowers with a counter punch when medically blind. If that doesn't make him the best counter puncher of all time I don't know what does.

    I'll ignore all the sweeping statements, things have to be evaluated case by case.

    Why would it be wishful thinking? We're talking a long retired Canadian vs a soon to be retired Cuban, why would anyone have a favourite in that matchup?
     
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He was a great super middleweight.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Having around 300 fights tends to get you schooled pretty good.
     
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  14. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What great heavyweights did Langerford beat?
     
    Eye of Timaeus, Jul 28, 2020
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Wills,Jeannette,McVey.

    What very good ones has Ortiz beat? What's his best win?
     
    mcvey, Jul 28, 2020
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