Battle Of The Windmills: Jirov Vs Calzaghe

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  1. Streets_Of_Gold

    Streets_Of_Gold Member Full Member

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    Two of the busiest fighters around meeting at LHW.

    I give the edge to Jirov because of his toughness, strength, size, and that he throws more accurate and straighter punches.

    Actually, this would be a great action fight. Wonder why it hasn't been made yet?

    What say you?
     
  2. FIght would never happen Jirov was a Cruiserweight, to BIG:-( ...
     
  3. Streets_Of_Gold

    Streets_Of_Gold Member Full Member

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    Come on. Joe says he's great. Surely he could go to Cruiser and prove it.
    This is what the GREAT do. Ask Toney, former middleweight, or Jones.

    And let's not forget, this is what everyone said bout Hopkins - Tarver. That Tarver was too big and too strong.

    Joe needs a set of nuts.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Had Joe moved up to CW to fight Jirov circa: 2000, Joe would lost.
     
  5. Streets_Of_Gold

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    :good

    I believe if he moves up tomorrow, he'd lose just as well.

    Still, it would be a very entertaining matchup. The battle of the total offense, no defensive fighters. Another Ward-Gatti, only with more punches thrown.
     
  6. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Jirov would beat him, he's just too big. It's a shame how little credit he receives
     
  7. Streets_Of_Gold

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    A true dat!

    I like Jirov a lot. He's a humble cat who understand his strengths and weaknesses. He also was not a protected fighter like Calzaghe.

    Jirov would probably wear Calzaghe down with body shots before a late stoppage.
    They could meet at a catch weight around Cruiser, but I doubt Calzaghe would take the fight. Jirov's too young.
     
  8. Sebastien

    Sebastien Active Member Full Member

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    Jirov kills him.

    Where is Jirov? Haven't heard from him in a long time.
     
  9. Streets_Of_Gold

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    Following his lost to Micheal Moorer, Vassily has won his last 4 fights (2 @ HW and 2 @ CW), 2 by TKO.
    He hasn't fought this year.
    His team should call out Calzaghe at CW.
     
  10. TFFP

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    I'll swim against the tide and say Joe schools him, especially at this stage of the game

    Joe is at his best against Jirov's style of fighting, where he isn't looking to draw a guy out
     
  11. Streets_Of_Gold

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    :patsch
    Why would you think this? Jirov is naturally larger and stronger. Those slaps would have little effect on him, while Jirov's 500 punches/round contain no slaps and would definitely affect Calzaghe.
    Jirov is a constant pressure fighter. I don't believe Calzaghe would be able to stay in the middle of the ring against him. Jirov also has a nice straight right. He caught Toney with it a few times. Using this, he would eventually back Calzaghe to the ropes, and once his back hit the ropes Vasilly would unload 100 non-stop "punches" on him. I think Calzaghe is good at dishing this oout, but don't think he can take his own medicine.
    Although their styles are pretty close, Jirov would be the puncher to Calzaghe being the boxer. This is because they both throw thousands of punches but Jirov is straight ahead while Calzaghe deploys more movement.

    Both fighters have no defense and depend on constant flurries. The difference is, Jirov has more pop to his punches and has a "proven" granite chin.
    He only gets hurt by larger, stronger fighters like Toney and Moorer.
    I see a TKO somewhere in the 8th round.
     
  12. TFFP

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    You can post a slapping head smiley all you want, coming from a guy that describes Robin Reid as a journeyman I don't take you too seriously

    Slaps, blah blah blah. Yes, of course, those slaps have never hurt anyone. It's a wonder people havn't just walked through them isn't it? The slap that put Eubank on his arse? Perhaps the one that had Kessler writhing in pain before the ref saved his ass? That's typical hater bull****, which I don't take as serious analysis

    Yes, Joe Calzaghe has a defence. If he didn't have a defence why the hell isn't his nose half way across his face? Why doesn't he often cut? Joe gets in and out of range very effectively, he ain't Ricky Hatton. His defence is superior to Jirov's

    Even if Joe can't stand toe to toe with him he can almost certainly counterpunch against him, a style which Jirov is particualarly suceptible to. This is where you underestimate Joe's adapatability and ring smarts, areas in which he is streets ahead of Jirov. He doesn't often need to, but he can counterpunch

    Like I said, in their current states I'd take Calzaghe to school him, boxing is about more than being big and strong as has been proven many times. If Joe had a suspect chin I might feel differently. Prime Jirov is a different animal of course.
     
  13. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jirov would be too weakened at 175 but he would beat Calz at 190.