Battling Siki

Good thread Quickhands, Siki is often overlooked. I think I have him around my top 40.

 

Outside of top 100. Very poor fighter.

 

Terrible fighter, rugged and very strong but almost completely lacking in skill. Club level fighter at best. He and McTigue who was also poop may be one of the lowest points the division ever saw.

 

A highly respected fighter of the time, nearly got a math with Dempsey, and some fancied his chances.

His arrogance cost him against McTigue, he was a far better fighter than he showed, as Carpentier found out!

Peter Benson's book on Siki is a fair read.

 

I don't think it'll be hard to find 10 light heavyweights better than Siki in each decade of last century.

 

Well you would do him a grave disservice in many of them decades if you tried.

 

Well, I haven't read the book about him, but I didn't notice much respect for him as a boxer in contemporary press. Not to mention, it was Carpentier's arrogance that costed him the title. People, who saw Siki's fights ringside, commented that he was unskilled, but very tough and wild brawler. The film confirms this.

 

I am a huge fan of Carpentier, but by 1923 Siki was (with hindsight) always going to have his number if properly focused. It was a massive upset, but in the league of a Johnson/Jeffires or Corbett/Sullivan upset; people choosing to be blind to their heroes seeing better days....

 

Siki wasn't thought to be good, in the first place, unlike Corbett and Johnson. Siki and being focused really don't fit in the same statement. He was savage not just in the ring, but as a person, very unstable mentally, much much worse than Golota or Ibeabuchi. And he was easy to outbox, if you had at least some skills and wits to avoid getting into a brawl with him, as was proven time and time again.

 

One of the top 100 most entertaining fighters for sure. Siki vs Carpienter is a good fight.

 

Larry Gains in his excellent autobiography "The Impossible Dream" tells how Siki used to go around the Paris bars ,order huge rounds of drinks ,then ask the barman if he believed in God ,on getting a yes reply he would then say "well believe he will pay this bill".A nutcase.

 

from boxrec

 

this guy is hilarious. i havnt seen footage of him yet. are there any tapes going around?

reminds me of a bit of jack johnson and edson miranda


the guy walked round with a pet leopard :rofl:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


somone make a movie on this guy please