BBC's updated P4P list

1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather
3. Marquez
4. Hopkins
5. Mosley
6. Williams
7. Wlad Klitschko
8. Dawson
9. Bradley
10. Haye

I'd probably go for something like. 6 downwards are kinda hard to seperate but you get the idea. I've changed mine up from the usual formula of including Calderon because he just hasn't been looking impressive. I see no logical reason to drop Marquez down when he lost at 147 with zero chance to grow into the weight when previously he was flying...why penalize him for that?

Other considerations were Donaire who was very close but he just has the one win that is really impressive and Hasegawa who I'm afraid hasn't fought the best yet. Cotto had to go because he looks spent after 6 rounds, thats not what a p4p fighter should be.

 

I'd keep Calderon on the basis that the matey who gave him problems went on to batter Sosa and win the WBC.

Good list though, good to see BRadleys consistency garnering him kudos:good

 

Bradley more than deserves it for his wins over Witter, Holt, Campbell and Petersen. Thats good going.

Calderon has looked a bit scrappy in a few outings for my liking. Seems a little past it to me but I'd have no arguments with him unlike Lopez/Gamboa/Valero which are criminal choices.

So why is it Marquez has been dropped down the rankings at all? Can somebody explain that logic to me? So when he was knocking out Diaz and Casamayor for the first time at lightweight as well as the close fights with Pac he deservedly gets recognition, at this point he's good enough to be #3, then he takes a fight 2 weight divisions up against a guy above him in the rankings and loses against a 1/4 favourite and that means he drops down? What was supposed to happen happened, that **** is dumb. Did Marquez suddenly get worse in the last few months? :huh

 

Gamboa...not yet
Valero....are you joking?

 

JMM is should not be above Mosley, Hopkins, Williams, and even Dawson...

JMM is **** at 140 and above..

 

It is a questionable choice, a few others are in contention with him that I mentioned and I wouldn't argue with anybody that prefers them. I just went for Haye because Cruiser > Heavy titles is quite a rare and decent achievement. I don't think any of the others have wins that put them well ahead of Haye so I'm happy to go for him based on that.

 

Don't agree with Bradley being higher then Calderon, even Lopez and Gomboa higher than him, not just yet! Holt/Witter/Peterson are all mediocre opponents. Haye shouldn't be ther just yet, beating one the Klits will put him right in the thick of it though.

The Marquez point is spot on, he should only have moved a place down for losing to Mayweather, surely his triumphs against Diaz and Casamayor were legendary!

 

He's never fought at 140lbs so how do you know that? Genius, he's a natural lightweight at ths stage of his career. Mosley is probably a **** middleweight too.

 

Perfectlly decent reasoning; I agree :good

 

Gamboa and Lopez above Bradley? No, seriously. All of the opponents I mentioned that you claim are mediocre are better than anybody on Gamboa/Lopez's combined records. Go figure.

 

Nope not Gomboa/Lopez above Bradley, I'm talking about Calderon, I would have him higher than them 3. Beating Campbell would have done him good in the 'p4p rankings' but he didn't.

 

Valero is a 2 weight world champion, 26 KO's from 26? Not talking about mickey mouse IBO belts either.

 

He did in my eyes. He was dominating every second of that fight and Campbell got a cut and looked for the way out he didn't even show that warrior heart to WANT to fight on because he would rather get out with a NC. Bradley has beat 3 world champs, thats more than enough to make the list for me.

You could be right about Calderon, I'm just going with my own hunch he's past it based on his last 3 or 4 outings. He's gonna get beat then everybody will throw him off the list in a reactionary knee-jerk manner. Having evaluated his form I'm getting rid of him now considering this hasn't even been against top grade opponents. If he proves me wrong and beats a better opponent impressively I'll reintroduce him.

 

Look at the quality of opponents, Haye would be higher than him, even put Froch higher than him!!!:yep