Be honest. How bias do you think the Super 6 has been?

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  1. Malden

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    ^:deal
     
  2. The_President

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    Super 6 upsets, or exposure of the favorites

    Kessler came into the tournament a front runner, but those odd statistics were soon put to rest as he faced the "prospect" Adrea Ward, with Ward effectively shutting down the Dane's offense and Kessler received a fairly one-sided ass whopping.
    Throughout the match Ward dominated by winning the battle of jabs.
    Once Ward's jab was established, it was soon followed by sharp straight rights, and in southpaw stance, straight left hands and hooks.
    Inside, Ward used old school techniques to score well with body shots and uppercuts.

    By the the mid rounds, Ward had reduced Kessler to a fighter afraid to exchange, coming forward looking more like Arthur Abraham using the peep-a-boo guard.
    Throughout the fight, Ward shifted from southpaw to orthodox with ease, confusing Kessler who had prepared for the fight facing only orthodox sparring partners.
    The clash of heads was probably due to this switches of stances by Ward, as it seems he was southpaw when the head butt occurred.
    The final judges score however told the final story with all judges giving Kessler no more than 2 rounds in the bout.

    Next; Kessler-Froch
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good win for Ward, but he has only ever beaten good fighters who have already been beaten with a blueprint on what to do, and with his ref who warned Kessler about head use and allowed Ward to punch after the bell after more than just one headbutt from Ward.
    When Ward had to travel for just one S6 fight he called for a delay :oops:.

    I can understand you getting excited about Ward as America have never been able to get a grasp on the SMW division. I remember the Lacy hype and the Mitchell Hype :lol: and both those two have done every bit overall as much as Ward
     
  4. Brickhaus

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    This was what was agreed to by all promoters when the tournament was originally signed. It was dumb of them to let that happen, but this wasn't Showtime's fault, it was the promoters.

    See answer to #1. Froch was supposed to fight Kessler at home, and instead he took more money to fight in Denmark. THEN, the Abraham fight was supposed to be in Germany but Froch pissed and moaned enough about it that he was able to get the fight moved to a neutral country. Plus, Froch had the right to make the Johnson fight at home, but WANTED the fight to be in America so that he could build more of a name here. So there's really no merit to this one at all.

    Maybe, but it was irrelevant. By the time this happened, he had already locked up the #1 seed.

    I'm not sure how it could have been anywhere else. The fight loses a lot of TV money if it's in Europe. Froch has fought in AC before while Ward hasn't. And Nottingham is only 500 miles further away from Atlantic City than Oakland. Sure, it's an advantage for Ward, but not as big of one as people are making it out to be, and I thoroughly expect a majority of the crowd to be rooting for Froch.

    Yes. No way around this one. Ward should have had to fight on the road at some point, and that was supposed to be part of his deal.

    Yes, Ward unquestionably had an easier road than Froch, but I don't think the tournament organizers were trying to make it easy for Ward as you're insinuating. They gave him the toughest opening matchup in the tournament, and he was a 10-1 underdog coming in.
     
  5. bailey

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    Look rules are rules. So what if Ward was in the final. Abraham got in the semis with only one win. Ward should still have had to have fought. Look at football qualifiers, the team that is a sure thing still has to complete the qualifiers.
     
  6. Royal-T-Bag

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    It's been extremely biased towards Ward, Ward has been babied the whole time but it my backfire due tot the fact that he's never faced a top level fighter who wasn't injured.....it might lead to a beating from the experience Froch.
     
  7. bailey

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    Interesting point.
    The only near top fighter Ward has fought who wasnt damaged goods around the time of the S6 was Bika and Ward didnt win as clearly as Bute or Calzaghe and some felt (not me) that the fight could have been scored a draw
     
  8. Brickhaus

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    It's not like he didn't fight. They just couldn't find an opponent to officially sign up to the tournament. I'm just saying it's moot - even if they gave him zero points, he would still be the first seed. It was mathematically impossible for him to end up otherwise. I agree that if he didn't fight at all, that could be an advantage, but he did, and Bika's a lot tougher than, say, Allan Green (or probably Jermain Taylor for that matter).
     
  9. The_President

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    Stay tuned!
    December is almost upon us.
    Froch had his hands full with Dirrell. Let's see how he fares against the more focused Ward. :good

    BTW, was Kessler damaged when he faced Ward?
    I was under the impression that the damage occurred during the Ward fight?
     
  10. bailey

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    Froch beat Dirrell who up until the S6 had done a whole lot more than Ward.
    Here watch this video

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    Anyway Ward had his hands full with Bika :oops:
     
  11. dubace

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    it has been pretty biased in ward's favor. he's annoyingly overrated. but he will eventually turn into a great fighter if he fights bute in canada and maybe another foreign fight. of course, he's not very marketable so he can't count much on the judges outside of oakland
    and Bika worked him. that fight should've been a draw.
     
  12. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    most of it did occur in the ward fight. just an excuse to explain why he couldn't handle ward. his eye had some minor damage before, but truth is he can't handle movement and speed very good at all. he would do better in a rematch, but he's not good enough to beat ward and prime for prime it's ward all day. kessler's too slow and limited and has no in-fighting ability
     
  13. dubace

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    dirrell won that fight pretty clearly, but because froch's title was at steak, i'm glad they didn't give it to him. hopkins and mayweather use lateral movement. he straight up ran
     
  14. boxfan99

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    Ofc Ward would never face Bute in Canada with Butes homer ref (see 1st Andrade fight), that judge would NEVER allow Ward to headbutt Bute into oblivion. :nono
     
  15. BatTheMan

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    He has said that there was problems while preparing for Ward. Doublevision.

    It was obviously aggrevated by Ward's headbutts (that you say never happened).