Beating Kessler doesn't make Calzaghe an ATG!

Sure, some will just be Joe haters, regardless of what he does he is in a lose lose situation in the ignorance of some. But I'm impressed by Calzaghe and want to see him step it up a notch and take on fighters that have different skill sets to see how Joe stands on the ATG list. Its not just a matter of making the list, its a matter of his standings on that list as well. I'm a little hesitant to give him the nod for ATG status, thing is. He will make it, but he will be regarded much lower than Hopkins.

If However he takes Hopkins on, and wins decisively, I will be more than convinced he deserves to be ranked very highly.. That is all. People want to hate, I want to see just how good he is.

 

Aye I don't class you as one of haters, but someone like JoseFm..., it does not make a damn bit of difference who Calzaghe fights he will find a way to discredit it. The guy picked Kessler by savage KO and now Kessler is nothing compared to Pavlik.

 

Just a couple of errors I thought i'd correct. Otherwise :good

 

I have to say that I disagree. ATG is somewhere that you absolutely have to start considering Calzaghe. He has beaten both the top guys in his division, and has been champion for a lengthy amount of time.

Please keep in mind who Hopkins beat during his lengthy title reign and he is considered ATG. Calzaghe beating both Lacy and Kessler is quite comparable. Especially considering how easily he won both.

 

Joe's proven himself to me that's for sure......but ATG well actually don't like that term cause every decade has it's Champions, Styles, Super fights and that's way too hard a pick for me

 

a lot depends on how kessler performs the rest of his carreer if calzaghe retires as of now.

 

Agreed.

Also if Lacy goes on to great things then Joe will rise through the rankings.

 

It is irrelevant whether it does make Joe an ATG or not...even if it didn't, this wouldn't change the fact he would beat Hopkins, Dawson, Pavlik...

Since Joe signed to fight Kessler, he started to cement/enhance his legacy in big steps.

Now that he has beaten him and got recognition for his great talent and ability form everyone, including Americans, he can continue to cement/enhance his legacy in big steps - he can make the best fights now, whereas before, they were dodging him because he was unknown and a bad risk - whether enough to achieve ATG status or not is another discussion - and as long as he can do so, he should;

he can enhance his legacy by fighting the most dangerous and best live threats out there at 168-175...Dawson, for example...NOT have-been NAMES who are only resume trophy wins.

 

Agree x2! Kessler may well go on to great things, it just depends how he reacts to his first loss. As for Lacy, well he might've been ruined by Calzaghe. If he makes a sucess of the rest of his career he'll have to demonstrate enormous willpower!

 

He's beaton them all...past and present....Eubank called him the bestatsch

 

It also seems that in the past, everyone who was gonna fight Joe, was gonna beat him...and when thay lost to Joe, instead of giving Joe credit, they called the ones he beat as overhyped....if Joe beats Hopkins/Dawson both, then woods, he's still not gonna get credit...they will be overhyped...old..inexperienced..overrated...etc :-(

 

It will do nothing for Joe to beat those old timers, he should meet Dawson
or give Kessler a remacth in Copenhagen!

 

No matter what Joe does, the americans will underrate him. Saying he only fought old bums and young noobs. BUt to me, he has already proven himself. He fought the toughest competition there was to offer, even when he was green himself, figting eubank. Fighting Lacy, who was supposed to "murder" Joe. It turns out he was just a great black hope. Then he fights Kessler. The second best in the division."If anyone can beat joe its kessler. He has the right style. WAAAAY harder punching"etc etc. Boy were they wrong.

Undefeated.Almost zero close fights.Holding the WBO belt for 10 years. Now unifying all the belts and fighting anyone that accepted his offer?

Thats an ATG in my book.

 

You will see what Kessler does in the future will make Calzaghe an ATG.

 

Despite Joe's masterful performance against Kessler, people are still going to be left short of examples when trying to illustrate his greatness. He has fought far too many fights that were completely pointless.