Beau Jack vs Esteban De Jesus

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    15 rounds
    Lightweight bout

    Who ??

    Opinions........
     
  2. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beau would beat Esteban by late round TKO, or UD.Too much tenacity for DeJesus.
     
  3. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your thread, VJ, conjures a poem I've never forgotten:

    A GLIMPSE OF BEAU JACK

    Philadelphia, 1946.
    Night. My father and I are walking home
    along a pavement raked by swirling snowflakes
    wherever the wind kicks up. Having just emerged
    from under the beamed shadows of the El
    we cross to the Arena, heading home
    – to mashed potatoes, sisters, downcast eyes,
    anger and sullen silence – past the wall
    in which a door stands open and I see
    in luminous blackness hundreds of black shapes,
    heads and shoulders, the sides of faces silvered
    in swirls of smoke, the embers of cigars
    glowing an instant and then blacking out –
    far off in the black depths the source of light,
    the canvas square of ring circled by kliegs
    and a slim brown man who has a bigger man
    pinned on the ropes, digging blood-red gloves
    methodically, like a man chopping wood,
    into his ribs, the white skin splotching pink.
    Could I have seen at that distance the rocking
    and ripple of muscle under the bronze skin
    or did I just imagine all of this?
    It couldn’t have been much more than a second –
    my father was a very impatient man –
    but there it is, as radiant as just now.
    My arm was jerked hard, I was dragged away
    wondering desperately who the man was – then
    there he was on a poster, fists cocked, poised,
    smiling behind his gloves. I have forgotten
    the name of his opponent but not his name.
    I loved him, and I wanted what he had –
    not the jeweled belt, the title, money, fame –
    what could they mean to an eleven-year-old?
    No, what I wanted was the pride and power,
    prowness and speed and grace, and even more,
    fearlessness in the face of bigger men.
    And that most beautiful of names – Beau Jack.
     
  4. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beau Jack was strong as a bull and a little more skilled than he is made out to be in my opinion. I won't put it past DeJesus to score a win in a trilogy, especially in a 10 round fight, but for the most part Jack would outlast him.

    I think one of the real setbacks for DeJesus was his size and lack of physical strength in comparison to the likes of Duran and Cervantes. Otherwise he was pretty terrific.

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  5. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beau Jack at his best[ and no one on ESB has seen film of the prime Beau Jack], was a truly great fighter,who has a special place in my heart,because he was the main eventer in the FIRST pro card my dad took me to. Until he burned himself out fighting 21 times as a 20 year old,and thereafter, Beau Jack [Sidney Walker] was a non-stop action fighter
    who whipped welter Fritzie Ziviz twice,Henry Armstrong, Bob Montgomery,Willie Joyce,and a slew of other top fighters,by the time he was 23 years old. His nemesis was
    the great Ike Williams who had Beau's number. Beau Jack was my favorite action fighter
    ever,and he sold Out MSG 7 times in ONE YEAR...
    Jack defeats Estaban by sheer number of punches Beau Jack threw, and he was a powerfu
    Lightweight. And I have him over Duran prime to prime. Too bad there is no film of the prime Beau Jack, except for the fading Beau Jack I saw in Philly in 1948,when Ike Williams almost killed him due to a negligent referee...That is the only film of Beau Jack
    I've seen on the internet...Too damn bad...
     
  6. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love the way Esteban mixes up his combinations, throwing three or four punches to the head, taking a step forward, digging two or three shots to the body, and then throwing a few more punches to the head.

    He was one of the greatest combination punchers I've ever seen especially because he threw all his shots with solid power, not just shoe shining like many fighters. He's direly underrated on this forum.

    Call it a hunch but Dejesus by UD.
     
  7. SEPv

    SEPv Guest

    Wow, beautiful ! :good