Because someone throws up a pic of Wlad ?

Im so surprised David Haye ALLOWS you to remove your mouth from his ***** long enough for you to breathe, let alone speak.

 

Or maybe they thought people wouldn't care because it's Chisora? A fight nobody was interested in. Had Klitschko pulled out of the Haye fight with instructions to rest for six weeks and, two weeks later, he was seen playing golf, the media would be all over it, that's for sure.

 

Jack, I will say that most of your posts are a lot more reasonable that many others who hail from England....so I don't mind the discussion with you.

Here's how I see it:
The Klitschko Brothers/Klitschko management are well ahead of most other boxers when it comes to social media, online presence, etc... They have their website, along with very active/frequently updated twitter and facebook accounts.

There is no way that they would think people wouldn't care and/or that Wladimir wouldn't get noticed playing golf 2-weeks after an injury.

I'm 100% certain of this...there's just no way they wouldn't know that.

That's why seeing Wladimir play golf, I believe doubters should see that as proof that he was injured. Because if the injury wasn't legit, there's no way they'd be out on a golf course with all that publicity, they'd want to stay in hiding...keeping up the appearance of an actual injury.

However, if Wladimir was really injured, and now has healed enough to play a round of golf, there's no guilt, no worry, no fear of being caught, and so there's no problem with the camera crew, photographer, etc...

 

I wish the thread title was literal.

 

Thanks and I'm happy to debate it too, even though we disagree.

One question though. You think one of the reasons why it's a legit injury and he's fine again, is because it would be careless of Wlad's team to let him play golf if he was faking it? But don't you also think it's very careless to let him play golf, if he is now injury free, and not release a statement saying something like "His recover has gone well, he's now fit again"? Like you said, they are in touch with their fans a lot more than most boxers, so why not release a statement like that?

As I said before, I think if this was Haye we were talking about, if he'd played golf and not released a statement or whatever, it would be questioned a lot more than it has been.

I don't know if Wlad is telling the truth. I think it would be highly unusual for an injury that should keep him out for two weeks, to heal in only two weeks. That's something I can't get beyond. I suppose you could say it healed quickly and then Wlad ignored doctors orders or whatever and maybe that is the case, I don't know. I do think though, based on the two facts we know for sure, that it was a bad injury, and the other fact that he was bad in a very short space of time, that there is room for legitimate speculation.

That's all it is though. I don't think Wlad is scared of Chisora or anything and ducking him seems laughable. It would be Holmes/Frazier all over again. That said, a six week injury healing in two weeks does not add up, no matter what side of the argument you're on.

 

I agree, ducking Chisora seems laughable.

Do I believe it to be careless on the part of Wlad's management to let him play golf? On the surface, without giving it a lot of thought, or sorting through the various possibilities, my answer would be YES, of course.

However, there is room for a lot of speculation.

As you said, Wladimir could have simply ignored the doctors orders. He could of thought to himself "I'm feeling well, and I'm going to play golf". He of course has his own free will, and can do as he pleases.

Most serious athletes, from high school all the way up to professionally, are very competitive, not only in their own sport, but in other sports and activities. If a competitive athlete gets it in their mind they want to do something, there's usually not many people who can convince them otherwise.

Now, that all goes towards Wladimir just ignoring his doctors orders, which could have happened. But I don't see Wladimir as one to go against Doctor orders, because even though he is extremely competitive, he also takes very good care of himself.

Who knows, maybe he went back a week later and was told "hey, this isn't as bad as we originally thought it was". And as "Antsu" posted earlier, it wouldn't be impossible for someone with Wladimir's injury to be playing golf 2-weeks later.

My best guess as to what has happened? It would be that since the initial injury he has consulted with the doctors again, undergone a few more tests, and the injury is either healing quicker than thought, or it just wasn't as bad as the doctors initially said it was.

I don't think it was too serious (although serious enough to legitimately stop him from fighting) from the very beginning, as the doctor stated just rest and pain meds was all that were needed, no surgery or anything.

 

I literally can't believe this thread.

. Klitschko ducking Chisora

. Letters from doctors.

. References from fathers.

. Definitions of abdominal injuries.

. Debate over golf being as strenuous as boxing.


LOL

 

Well, so much for pages of debate...looks like it was a staged picture, for a documentary.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/mehr-...ir-klitschko/nach-wm-absage-golf-spielen.html

 

The delusional Haye fans are jealous because their hero broke two contracts with Klitschkos, then ran and hid. Vlad showed proof of his injury, Haye did not. Golf is played by fat out of shape Republican rich criminals, is not a sport, it's a joke as far as sports go. Boxing is a different story.