Been watching Ike film today...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Muchmoore, Apr 11, 2010.


  1. Muchmoore

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    Man, what a beast he was. Curtis Cokes did a great job bringing him up and showing him how to throw combos, you can see improvement in pretty much every Ike fight.

    Awesome stamina and workrate, fast hands for a HW, very solid power, showed top end durability against Tua. He had a shotgun jab and unlike most heavyweights had a really nice variety of punches/combos. He could rip shots to the body, had a good left hook, nice right hand behind the jab, and we saw the vicious uppercut he landed on Byrd.

    It's a shame he was such a maniac, he could of really been something special. Thoughts?
     
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again? These threads come up every once in a while and always end the same ... boring.
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    No really just shows you how **** poor the divsion is that we have to keep going back to a guy that actually had realistic potential to carry the torch on from champions before him. :deal
     
  4. Muchmoore

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    Unlike most of the HW title fights since the 90's right?

    :yep
     
  5. kinski

    kinski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ike and Corrie Sanders. 2 of the biggest waste of talents in the division.
     
  6. Muchmoore

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    I've never been that impressed with Sanders. Good power and speed and I see him improving with more effort but even so, his durability wasn't strong at all and that wouldn't of improved no matter how hard he trained.
     
  7. kinski

    kinski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Duraability?! He had he gotten an American trainer who knows what would of happened. Laziness was his problem.
     
  8. Muchmoore

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    He still wasn't durable though, Nate Tubbs pretty much proved that.
     
  9. ATP

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    I miss the president.......he'l be away for a while from what i hear.....at least 3 parole requests denied :twisted:
     
  10. Bummy Davis

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    He was not conditioned but against Tubbs he got nailed clean. Sanders proved he could take punchers in future fights but his condition was for a 6 rd fighter. Sanders and Ike were a waste of talent. I gave Tua the fight vs IKE close but it was still a good performance and the KO over Byrd was promising. He could have made a good challenge to Lewis but Mike Grant looked like he would also. Steriods ruined him.
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    was ike a steroid abuser? the guy was prone to roid rage, it would explain a lot.
     
  12. kinski

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    Sanders was also faster then Ike. It took him 8 rounds to stop someone like jorge Valdes while Sanders did it in 1. Anyone can be KO'd. Ike is no exception. its to bad we'll never know how far he could of gone. curtis is still sick about it today. i talked to him about once years ago.
     
  13. Rock0052

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    If he abused them, they could've played a part.

    So could taking flush shots from Tua for 12 rounds. I still think that fight/war knocked a couple of screws loose from Ike, personally. Different people respond differently to head trauma, and erratic/destructive behavior is one potential outcome. Between that fight and the cumulative damage of a career (possible with even a short career, as also evidenced by McClellan's issues before the Benn fight), I think brain damage is the main culprit even if he were on steroids.