Been watching some old tapes of Roy Jones Jr

Floyd get pressure to fight guys bigger everyday.

When a fighter seem invincible, haters tend to put pressure on those fighters to fight guys way bigger for a possibly of an upset.

Ruiz was an ok heavyweight imo. I do not particular like his ugly style which heavily rely on clinches. I thought his style was tailor made for jones who at heavy weight will still be much faster than Ruiz. Ruiz doesn't hit particular hard or fast enough to impose his size on jones.

 

jones was the one that started all of that heavyweight talk, but at least he finally went and did it

floyd aint in it for the glory

 

He missed quite a few people actually. Michaelscewski, Michael Nunn, Nigel Been, Chris Eubank- but yes, there are different circumstances with each, maybe they weren't all his fault. Great career, I just think he could've been the best had he fought everyone.

 

Most fans don't really think they shouldn't, they just try to justify their favorite fighter's excuses.
When big names of the past are brought into it, certainly the small old time HW's lots of times they forget that their actual weight was even less as RJJ's.

Roy is a special case though. His athletic ability was off the scales, and maximized by steroid use.

 

What if Jones fought Collins, Eubank, Liles, Benn, and McClellan?

 

Floyd's getting pressure to fight in 1 weight class above and
he's still a ***** to do it. Rjj went from lightheavy straight to
heavy and bypassed cruiser 25 freakin lbs north. Rjj is a true
ATG, floyd is a cherry picker canastota bound ordinary HOF'er
when it's said and done. Floyd's relunctance will hurt him come
induction time, Watch.

 

pfft, he would've smoked them all. Collins? LILES? You can't be
serious. Those SMW's were scared of Toney and Rjj handled him
easily. Dariusz was the only legit guy roy never faced and that
was DM's and universum's fault.

 

Soooo......what's your point about it being done today? It seems
that feat is less attempted today, and you're implying that's a good
thing. As far as i'm concerned the last and only truly great fighter in
the last 25 years was Roy. Floyd is a great businessman, not fighter.

 

Its not that they;re any less demanding.

Its just that prime RJJ was a complete freak.

He was literally so good, that the only way people thought he could challenged was by fighting guys 30+ lbs heavier than him.

Theres just no one that good around these days.

 

OP is right. Ironically, hindsight is 20/20. It's always like that. When you're fighting, you get lambasted for what you should do. When it's all said and done, they finally realize what you did do.

 

While haters will do as you say, there are also fans of RJJ & Floyd who want(ed) to see them face bigger guys (i.e. me, and others). For me it's a matter of only caring about worthy challenges - it's credit to the boxers that no one in the world of their size at that point in time can challenge them.

I don't want to see Floyd dominate another mediocre opponent around his weight, boxing with a pretty much predetermined outcome is totally boring. I like Wlad too, but I don't tune into his fights anymore unless there is a chance of some real challenge, which is very rarely. It's not his fault, but there is nowhere for him to go in terms of challenge - but for Floyd and RJJ they can go up, and we get to see fights with an outcome that is not 100% certain.

It seems that certain sections of Floyd's fans are more concerned with him maintaining his '0', than actually seeing him in competitive fights. Come on, he's a once in a generation talent and people would rather that he cruise to another dull UD12 than make an insane statement and take on some actual challenges.

I apply that standard to all boxers who are completely dominant in their weight class, and regardless of whether they have been defeated before. All I want to see is competitive boxing where the result is not basically a foregone conclusion.

 

Yeah I agree. At this point, I find it strange that people argue that Floyd is too small for a Canelo, for instance. In that case, he should relinquish his 154lb belt immediately. While I understand that everyone has limitations and he's probably stretching it at junior middle, he has fought there before. Seems people are concerned because he might lose. Well...that's why we want to see it. Not like we're asking him to go to 160 or something.