before bernard beat winky, winky looked unbeatable.....

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  1. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    it was like no one will ever be able to crack his defense and then bernard comes along and does it with ease, bernard is the man.
     
  2. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That was an ugly, terrible fight. Just a bummer to watch...Bernard would get whooped by Chad Dawson and Winky has NO business fighting above 160.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That defense works against guys who are smaller than him. Taylor punched right through that guard. Soliman punched around it.

    Wright looks unbeatable when he fights guys close to his size. Hopkins is not close to his size.
     
  4. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Save your breathe bro....

    Everytime Hopkins beats someone, SOMEBODY comes up with a way to discredit it....even after they picked the other guy leading up to the fight.

    Before the Tito fight, most people said Hop was gonna get KOd...after it...Tito is a blown up WW.

    Before the DLH fight, Oscar was too skilled....after it....Oscar was blown up.

    Before the Eastman fight....Eastman was too big and strong....after it....Eastman was overrated.

    Before the Tarver fight....Tarver was too big, too strong, too powerful...after it...Tarver is an overrated bum who got lucky against an old Jones.

    Before the Winky fight...Winky was too skilled, too good defensively, too active....after it...Winky was a blown up, old fighter.

    Its ridiculous...and it happens EVERYTIME with Bernard.
     
  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Winky Wright looked beatable against Sam Soliman and he looked beatable against Jermain Taylor. His shell like defense and come forward, volume punching, jabbing style is most effective against smaller guys like kg said. With that said, Hopkins was actually the only guy to beat him and do so convincingly. Add that to the fact that he's 42 and it's a great win.
     
  6. klion22

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    Wright just had no business fighting at 170. He let his, "Take on all comers" attitude get the best of him.

    I still think he beats anyone at 160 and especially at 154.
     
  7. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think there is some truth to what you said.
     
  8. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    :good
     
  9. compukiller

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    :good
     
  10. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    This happens alot of the time with Winky. His defensive style isnt like the other top defenders. He doesnt slightly evade the punch like Hopkins....he doesnt always have himself perfectly positioned like Floyd....he doesnt roll with every hit like Toney.

    Winky is more like a turtle. He gets into his shell and absorbs it all on the gloves/arms/shoulders. This also means that, when he blocks something, he also takes a slight (very slight actually) amount of damage with it.

    This is what Taylor and Solimon did to him...they threw alot and let nature take its course so to say. Noone had really ever hit Winky as flush as Bernard did...THAT is what most impressed me with Hopkins win....hell he even staggered and hurt Wright in the 12th.
     
  11. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Just off the topic 4 a sec. I just wanted to say that HALO 3 is the s**t:yep, not back to your regular scheduled programming
    And Stranglehold as well
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just bought it 30 mins ago, don't tell me NOTHIN!! :deal I wanna be surprised
     
  13. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    wat did you buy Halo or stranglehold?
     
  14. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think bernard's a great fighter but his list of legit middleweight fighter's isn't that big, odlh/tito are not and never where middleweights (future hall of famers so still good wins but not exactly legit middleweights), joppy (got beat by eastman), eastman, vanderpool,echols,johnson none of these guys are exactly betetr than good contenders. I think the way people see hopkins as a top ten all time middleweight is more to do with his run of defences than his record of beating top guys. Add in his losses to taylor (controversial or not) his loss to jones and his loss to a nobody at the start of his career it doesn't look quite as impressive in my book. He is without doubt a great fighter but i think the likes of calzaghe and roy jones should be seen as superior fighters.
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Halo 3