before calzaghe beat lacy

I don't have the answer to that question. However I think there is no way that Calzaghe could do to Pavlik what he did to Lacy.

 

The fact he was called mini-tyson should tell you all you need to know.

 

I'm not sure about on here, but just about every boxing expert had Lacy winning by TKO/KO.

 

Lacy was prety well hyped but most fans would still tell you that he was very flawed and you couldn't be too sure of how far he'd actually go, but yes, many had him KOing Calzaghe. Joe was very inactive at that point and Jeff was knocking guys out left and right so it made sense to most people that he'd do the same to Calzaghe.

Pavlik on the other hand is hyped to a further extent as many believe him to be the true goods. He's not quite as flawed technically as Lacy was and many think he has much greater potential.

 

I've only recently started following boxing so i can't comment properly on this.

But, to compare Pavlik to Lacy is a bit absurd.

Lets be honest here, and yes with hindsight it is easy to shoot Lacy down, but ****, i don't know where the hype came from cause he didn't beat anyone particularly useful.

Pavlik has beaten an elite fighter in Taylor, twice, and a solid opponent in Miranda. You can't really compare him with Lacy. Lacy was all hype i guess, purely a prediction of whats to come, whereas Pavlik has established himself as the top runner in the middleweight division by beating a prime elite fighter.

Though i do agree Pavlik is overhyped- as is every boxer to a degree, theres always some fans who think their fighter could beat Wolverine in his prime.

 

Pavlik is hyped, very much so - but you see a way for him to rid the hype and become the real deal, if he hasn't already.

He has beaten an elite opponent in Taylor, twice, and a couple of solid guys with the odd chump thrown in.

Lacy hadn't done any of that, for people to suggest he was a mini Tyson is, in hindsight, rather stupid.

Both were/are hyped - but one has proved himself, the other has been missing in action for the past two years (pretty much).

 

If Taylor had put Pavlik away in round 2 of the first fight, his story and Lacy's would be about identical: big punchers, hyped, and then put away. But Pavlik got up and won dramatically. At that point he left Lacy in the dust.

 

Good point with regard Taylor putting Pavlik away.

 

Overly hyped ..And not to mention there were talks about where Lacy would go p4p if he had beat Joe ..Many had picked Lacy by KO ..The hype was pretty much in line with the Hype Pavlik is getting now ..

 

Hype or no hype, anybody could see that Pavlik's skill level is much higher than Lacy's. Even if he gets 'exposed' (hate that term), you still have to recognize that the guy has sound, if arguably limited, boxing skills and tremendous conditioning and workrate, even beyond his power.

 

I was one of the biggest Lacy fans around, but I always knew he was more flash than substance. He beat solid fighters, no doubt..but he also struggled with them. Particularly, when he won the title from Vanderpool, where Syd was able to outbox and batter him for most of the early rounds, and even hurt him bad to the body. I did foolishly predict he would stop Joe, but it was more wishful thinking than anything. In the back of my head, I always knew there was a good chance Lacy would be outlcassed. Still, at the time, most people considered Jeff to be a killer and the man to beat at 168. The fact that Joe took on a fighter perceived as the biggest threat at the moment, deserves to be acknowledged, and not swept under the rug after Joe proved Lacy wasn't the fighter many expected to be. If I'm not mistaking, Lacy was actually the betting favorite headed into that fight.

Pavlik on the other hand, is more proven than Jeff. He's beaten better fighters, and in a more decisive fashion. Pavlik is more than just hype.

 

Lacy believed the hype, he was so full of himself before the Calzaghe fight. Pavlik stays down to earth and keeps winning. In the press conference befire the Miranda fight, Miranda went on and on about Taylor. Pavlik kept quiet and gave his answer in the ring. A record of 34 : 0 is much different from 21 : 0, in my humble opinion. Pavlik has shown that he can not only bang, but also box with a skilled boxer like Taylor. He is on a different level from Lacy already.

 

Lacy was a cable TV creation who had nothing on his resume to indicate anything other than mediocrity, but any brother with muscles back then was hyped as a Tyson after KTFO of a few cans, only the simplest of saps bought into that one. Lacy was never anything. Pavlik is a whole other proposition.

However the sight of the muscled Lacy getting thrashed by Joe C put his fans into Orgiastic quivers. The symbolism of that ass wipping has made that clown the hero of every physically challenged Pasty faced worm the world over.

 

lacy was even more hyped than pavlik. at least noone is saying pavlik could move up to HW and dominate.