Before the Mosley fight Mayweather said drug testing cut off would be non negotiable

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  1. Rapid

    Rapid Member Full Member

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    pac agreeing to 14 days means nothing now. :patsch
     
  2. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here we go. :nut
     
  3. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    well..here's something to consider..

    Floyd said he opened up and fought differently against Mosley to give the fans a more exciting fight.He can easily just reneg on the cut off date and say for the sake of the fans.

    This leads up to him being seen in a different light and kinda elevates his popularity so he can retire again on top and a fan favorite with a new nice guy persona to go out with.He'll be seen as a master self promoter moreso than he already is.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The testing to begin with was all about Floyd getting leverage. I don't buy for one second that he really believes Manny is on something. With the money on the line and with Floyd's PPV numbers that I believe he was banking on would give him more leverage in the 2nd round of negotiations with Manny.

    So the drug testing won't be the hold up...he'll agree to the 14 days but will request the 60/40 split. I think that's the stance he'll take and that will be the nail in the coffin if Floyd and Manny won't come to compromise.
     
  5. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually believe floyd believes he on something.
     
  6. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    :deal
     
  7. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    14 days will be accepted. I just hope Manny and his team of morons stick with that.
     
  8. esconore

    esconore Active Member Full Member

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    "All we need is a 5 day window"
     
  9. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    that is your opinion..my opinion is that floyd really thinks manny is on some sh1t....u dont have to buy it but regardless floyd wins this one cuz he has the moral high ground on it man...like it or not and fair or not..it looks good on boxing..
     
  10. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I know huh:rofl they offered a 5 day window to the media and got caught lying on that $hit too
     
  11. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't fault you for that.....no one really knows what floyd thinks. I'm basing my conclusion on what I have seen over the course of this situation. I agree with you that the olympic testing looks good for boxing but NO ONE believes that Floyd only asked for them b/c he was looking out for the betterment of the sport.....it obviously came b/c of Manny. And exactly WHY floyd wanted Manny to be subjected to the tests are still in question. Was it b/c he really thinks Manny is doping, was it b/c he was looking for a way out of the fight, or was it a way to delay the fight and build the anticipation which creates more $$? :think
     
  12. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    well we know what floyd has said..i mean how many times has floyd said "if you not anything than take the tests"..basically sayiing "i believe your on something and if your not than take em"

    what evidence do you have to point yourself in the direction that floyd is doing it to get leverage..your right nobody knows what floyd is thinking..but he said himself what he is thinking and than somehow fans (mostly pacquiao fans) why he wanted manny to take them..u just interperet that to mean something else..

    so when floyd said "not only do i wanna fight manny pacquiao but i want to whip his punk azz" what did you make that out to mean?:think

    i mean cmon now...u takin fighters words and makin em out to what u want them to mean...

    before all the bull$hit happened i was on here saying manny would agree and that SR didnt know what he was talking about..PACS ACTIONS AND HIM CONTINUOUSLY REACHING FOR EXCUSES IS WHAT MAKES MY ARGUMENT DIFFERENT THAN YOURS IS ALL IM SAYING

    MANNY AGREED TO THE TESTS ORIGINALLY...THE FIGHT WAS GONNA BE MADE ORIGINALLY...SO THAT PROVES WHAT YOUR SAYING WRONG REALLY..UR ARGUMENT CHAR, IM SORRY TO SAY, IS FILLED WITH HOLES MAN...U CAN HAVE YOUR OPINION BUT WHEN I POINT OUT THINGS LIKE FLOYD IGNORING MOSLEY NEGOTIATIONS IN ABLE TO FIGHT PAC U AND MANY OTHER PAC FANS DONT EVER RESPOND..

    U HAVE LITTLE TO BACK UP WHAT YOUR SAYING...I HAVE A LOT...:good
     
  13. fighter86

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    :shock:By the time they fight all roids will have left Pac's body by then...and if he don't take these drugs he will get Flatten ,but make a huge amount of money to help his country .....its over Pac face it ,its over.:happy:lol::roll::fire
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd has said A LOT! Which is why most don't really buy why he is demanding tests on Manny. They don't really beleive that he's doing it to better boxing b/c of things he's said and they don't really believe he is afraid of Manny b/c of the things he's said.

    So people in general are questioning "WHY" he demanded the tests b/c demanding olympic testing is kind of saying he's concerned about manny. That really doesn't match the things he's said before.

    Taking those tests won't change Floyd's mind that PAC is on or NOT on something if that is what he truly believes. The tests as a whole are easily beaten if you have the resources available which both Manny and Floyd do....but it doesn't mean either one are dirty.

    Evidence??? these days evidence is not necessary to spread a rumor and try to pass it off as true.:lol: Not that I'm trying to say that "I KNOW I'm 100% Right".....I'm just saying based on what I've heard, seen and know, that Floyd motives are highly questionable.

    I'm sure Floyd really does want to beat Manny....but I'm not so sure that he's willing to take the risk even if the money is massive. If he REALLY wanted to fight and whip his ass Floyd would have already done that. But instead we got accusations and new demands for Olympic style testing.

    If Floyd stayed consistant and predictable like he has been for the past 40 fights he's had as a pro then I wouldn't have to decipher what he means or what his intentions are when talking about facing manny.

    You have little to back up what you are saying all the same. I'm not twisting his words I'm just questioning his intentions based on actions that contradict his words......at least when dealing with PAC.

    :good But.....I can see your side....I just don't agree with it.
     
  15. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    U R SAYING FLOYD DIDNT WANT FIGHT MANNY ...BUT REMEMBER THAT MOST FANS SAID HE DIDNT WANT SHANE:think

    MANY SAID HE WOULD THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE AFTER THE TESTS FOR SHANE..

    IF U LOOK AT IT ALL...TEAM PAC EVEN SAID THEY DID NOT WANT TO FIGHT FLOYD IN MARCH AS IT WAS TOO SOON...WHEN TEAM PAC SAID FLOYD DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT IN MARCH FLOYD CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAID LETS DO IT

    AGAIN...JUST THE FACT THAT U POINT TO FLOYD NOT WANTING TO TAKE THE RISK AS FAR AS MONEY GOES SHOWS UR ARGUMENT WEAK..

    DO U NOT REMEMBER FLOYD ANNOUNCING A FIGHT WITH JMM (PACS RIVAL) ON THE DAY OF HATTON-PACQUIAO.

    HOW BOUT THE FACT THAT HE DIDNT WANT NO PARTS OF SHANE AFTER THE JMM FIGHT AND INSTEAD CHOSE TO FOCUS ON PAC

    AGAIN...I HAVE A LOT MORE AND CAN AND HAVE PROVIDED A LOT MORE VIDEOS/SOURCES AND MUCH BETTER EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY THAN YOU CAN.IVE DONE IT ALREADY WITH MANY OTHER PAC FANS...

    YOUR ARGUMENT IS BASED ON WHAT YOU THINK FLOYD REALLY MEANS WHEN HE SAYS SOMETHING..THATS WEAK

    SHOW ME A VIDEO OF FLOYD AND HIS TEAM SAYING THEY DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT IN MARCH..
    I CAN SHOW U ONE OF TEAM PAC SAYING THEY DIDNT

    I CAN ALSO SHOW U A VIDEO OF TEAM PAC SAYING THEY AGREED TO THE TESTS

    BELIEVE ME MAN IM NOT EVEN SAYING IT TO TALK $HIT...BUT THERE IS A LOT MORE OUT THERE (ESPECIALLY ON THE WEB) THAT PROVES YOUR ARGUMENT WEAK AND SHOWS THAT I HAVE A LOT MORE TO BACK MY ARGUMENT...


    PAC FANS ALWAYS FAIL TO PROVIDE VIDEOS/SOURCES...THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS TIMES WHERE I HAVE ARGUED WITH A PAC FAN AND BROUGHT UP VALID VIDEOS/QUOTES/SOURCES/ETC... AND THE DAMN PAC FAN EITHER BOUNCES OR SAYS "FUK YOU"....AGAIN..UR ARGUMENT IS WEAK AND HAS LITTLE TO BACK IT..MINE DONT