Before you rate Ward over Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Forza, Sep 8, 2012.


  1. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kessler was prime an undefeated at the time, a world class fighter. Calzaghe 7 years older, 2 inches shorter, physically weaker beat him.

    Calzaghe beat chris eubank when he was only 21 years old, 1st title fight of his life in front of a huge crowd.

    Ward resume is not solid. He has 1 legit win, Carl Froch (who admitted on a UK TV show calzaghe would beat him). Tonight's win was against a weight drained opponent.
     
  2. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's called make a move up one division and get that #1 spot. Fight in America. Make your name known. Get that rank. Fight anyone with a high ranking and/or title if there is one to get.
     
  3. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why fight in America when the SMW division at the time all the top fighters were in Europe? And calzaghe at the time deserved the #1 spot for roy, but roy chose bums like david telesco.

    Calzaghe wanted the fight, roy didn't.

    Roy delayed the inevitable, a royal ass whooping.
     
  4. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Racist? My favorite current boxer is floyd mayweather. I'm one of the few people hyping Gary Russell Jr. I also am a huge fan of mexican boxing. Stop trying to bring out the race card :|
     
  5. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch is several levels below Ward or Calzaghe. I agree, Ward can only fight those available to him but he could have easily beaten Froch in Nottingham with Miss Cordingly reffing and his mother on the judging panel.

    Ward needs to make fights that at least give the impression that he's giving some advantage away, not make them so that he holds every single card.
    It would be a shame to see his career, when it's all over, tarnished in the same way as JCs and RJJs are, despite their obvious talents.
     
  6. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also was your home site the scene? Because I was on there for 2 years before I was banned for comparing pacquiao to jeremy lin. You can take your ******* mods and shove them up your ass, ESB is a better boxing website.
     
  7. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because we are talking about fighting ROY JONES JR, Light-Heavyweight Champion, not Super-Middle-Weight Champion (anymore).

    Calzaghe wasn't in his division so who are you to call him out?

    First step up and show the world how serious you are by moving up a division against a top opponent and secure your spot in America because that's where the fight would have been held.

    You go to Roy; Roy doesn't come to you. Not when your title means more and you are the P4P #1 in the Sport.
     
  8. crazy8s

    crazy8s Active Member Full Member

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    LOL, but your playing the race card... not cool bro. :lol:
     
  9. bamboleo

    bamboleo Still Proud to be Butard Full Member

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    Based on the hype called S6 ?
     
  10. Higher Animal

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    He was *called out* by Dawson. Dawson agreed to the weight. Dawson could've put in place any sort of demands and made them public that would've been fair (neutral venue, catchweight, etc.). Dawson simply made a bad strategic move and you can't fault Ward for simply going along with what Dawson wanted.
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im shocked that a thread like this could even be made.
    Every top fighter Ward has a win over, has a loss that dates back to Calzaghe somewhere. Every one

    Wards biggest win was Kessler, who a past prime Calzaghe beat when undefeated and prime
    Ward beat Froch, who lost to Kessler, who lost to Calzaghe
    Ward beat a weight weakend Dawson, who lost to Pascal who lost to Froch, who lost to Kessler, who lost to Calzaghe
    Ward beat Bika who a past prime Calzaghe beat when Bika was active

    Calzaghes win over Kessler is greater than Wards

    Calzaghes win over undefeated Lacy is greater than Frochs, as Lacy was a favourite leaving a trail of destruction, whilst Froch had lost only a couple of fights before, before that some felt he looked lucky to Dirrell and was coming off a MD win over a 43 year old SMW journeyman

    Calzaghes win over Mitchell was a better SMW win than Wards over Dawson

    Calzaghes win over Bika was greater than Wards

    Then dont forget that Calzaghe has wins over other fighters who have held SMW titles like Woodhall, Brewer, Veit and a win over Eubank, which is a far greater win than anything Ward has, then add in all of the top 10 SMWs Calzaghe beat and then the LHWs in Jones and Hopkins that Calzaghe beat, there is no competition.

    Calzaghe is far greater than Ward and was fighting in a better era. Look at the current SMWs and see how most of them havent done much or beaten anyone of note
     
  12. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's his chi holmes. Joe C. was like one of those ancient Chinese Kung Fu masters who could stop a guy just by throwing a strike in his general direction.

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  13. Smashgar

    Smashgar McMustache Nuthugger Full Member

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    What kind of ****** logic is this? I use this sort of "X beat Y beat Z" logic to "prove" Butterbean superior to Vitali in troll threads. :rofl

    Welsh Ottke.
     
  14. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you may live in florida but its painfully obvious youre british and were weened on calzaghe
    if you cant be objective youre just cheapening the name of brit fight fans everywhere
     
  15. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's failey. That's what he does to justify his ***gotry.