Before you say: "he's a bum"

I wonder if any of the ESB sages wish to retract any statements they made in this thread. As I said damn near a year ago in this very thread, Sylvia is a bum who managed to obtain his victories by virtue of his size. He is not skilled or a worthy adversary for anybody of comparable size who is even vaguely familiar with any martial art, be he 19 or 90.

Below you have some of ESB's most prominent and pronounced MMA aficionados giving you their thoughts regarding one Timothy Sylvia.

. . . for Ray Mercer in an MMA bout at age 48.

Credit to Ray Mercer, whose stock should rise dramatically in the heavyweight rankings after vanquishing the completely legitimate ex-UFC champion in under 10 seconds using MMA rules. I know, I know, you're probably asking yourself, "Is this the same Ray Mercer that I saw lose to Kimbo Slice? The Kimbo Slice who I refer to as a bum/fraud who will lose against any real MMA practitioner." Yep. That's him. The Ray Mercer who lost to the "fraud," yet beat the decorated and skilled ex-UFC champion (the one who isn't a bum) in under 10 seconds using MMA rules as a boxer, not a mixed martial artist. Please, gentlemen, explain that to me. I'm all ears.

Gentlemen, Sylvia's horrible. There's no two ways about it. Accept it. I know by calling Sylvia a bum it almost delegitimizes the whole sport of MMA with him being able to become champion and all but even the sun shines on a dog's ass sometimes.

 

All I have to now is...

9 seconds

 

Both fighters had a lot of known problems and issue going into this "fight" but no matter what, this is a great win for boxing and a bad loss for MMA!

 

I'm happy for Mercer but guys like you making it a boxing vs mma thing just **** me off. You Tuffnutz, you are a twat of the highest caliber.

Why is it that fans of every other sport don't whine and cry about one another except boxing fans and MMA fans?

The thing that the boxing only fans on this site don't seem to understand is that the MMA fans on this site actually really love boxing too.

You guys can come to the mma forum and see for yourself that pretty much nobody, except the occasional troll, trashes on boxing. So why do you guys feel the need to come in after EVERY big fight (whether its a boxer involved or not) and trash the sport?

 

Well said.
If these boxing only fans want to argue with MMA only fans, this isn't the place to do it. They should go over to Sherdog if that's their motive.

I get just as pissed at MMA only fans who bash boxing. And as you have pointed out, the MMA fans on here are boxing fans as well. We have no interest in bashing boxing.
In fact, it's really easy for a boxing only fan to avoid talking about MMA altogether. Just don't come into the MMA section.
But of course, the urge to troll is too strong for some, so they have to come in and bash a sport they supposedly don't care at all about. Very odd.

 

I'm an MMA and boxing fan and I don't go to sherdog! For me this forum is the only place I can go and for the most part NOT have to deal with morons but its to the point now that I can't even come here anymore after an event because people are total ****wads and are dicks just to be dicks. Anyway I guess the only thing I can do is after every event just wait a day or two before showing up.

 

Exactly. I cant believe guys are already quick to write Fedors victory off when he took care of business that quick against a former UFC champion. Its absolutely idiotic.

 

Bingo :thumbsup

After all these years the UFC's heavyweight division is still a mess. Its ironic to think a 2nd tier guy like Gilbert Yvel or Overeem could probably walk into the UFC and easily become their champ.

 

Sylvia is a weak fighter but he has size and has achieved much like someone like Valuev has. However size is his advantage and he used it well but in a weakish division. Prime Cro and Fedor were in Pride, as were many other fighters. Sylvia has lost to the best fighters he faced.

Even now, the heavyweight division may be incredibly weak but look strong because there is a void. Much like when Jones got old, Tarver and Johnson replaced him but neither were ATGs despite building really good records.

At the moment it could be an old Nog, Couture and Mir, along with a yet to be exposed talent in Brock.

The real saviour could be Fedor but he isn't in the division.

Hopefully some young quality heavyweights can come through. Hopefully Lesnar is actually really good and might compete against Fedor. I thin kthe heavyweight divison is still too fragmented. Arlovski, Rogers, Fedor, Barnett in one place. Nog, Mir, Couture, Lesnar in another place.

 

I am an MMA fan, dip****! atsch
This **** is pretty ****ing funny though.

It's time that the boxing nuthuggers had some fun with the MMA nuthuggers, because they've taken more **** from MMA nuhuggers and there is no nuthugger worse than an MMA nuthugger.

Now, chill the feck out! :rasta

 

Rematch!