Ask your self WWDD? What Would Duran Do? I'll tell you what he'd do. He'd quit. Sure he'd get a DQ win, but he'd quit. What did Mayweather do? He Kept fighting. He got a well desevved decision win. Futher more when Casitilio was giving him problems in their first fight did Mayweather quit? No he did not. When Mosley had him hurt in the second round did he quit? No he did not. In every convebile way Mayweather is a better boxer than Duran. He is more skilled has more talent and without a doubt has more hart.
I don't usually venture over there unless I'm looking to do a bit of trolling myself, so I can't really judge them. Who knows who's being facetious? It is a ride, though, I will say. As long as you don't take it seriously, you can't help but be entertained. A bit like the Wicker Man remake with Nicolas Cage.
"Duran was a natural Middleweight" "Duran was in his prime when he fought Buchanan" NOBODY CARES YOU KNOWLEDGELESS ****!
Duran's best wins. Ray Leonard UD 15. Leonard made him quit in the rematch Ken Buchanan. TKO 13. Thanks to a low blow after the bell. Doesn't matter if he was winning. He should have dq'd right then and there. That is unless low blows after the bell were allowed in 1972. Esteban De Jesus. KO 11 and TKO 12. Besides Duran in a non tittle bout did De Jesues beat? Pipino Cuevas. TKO 4. Great, great puncher but not that great of a boxer. Davey Moore TKO 8. Sure he was unbeatan and held a championship but he was unbeatan in just 12 fights. In what was sadly a short career due to his untimely death Moore would go 6-4 in his remaning fights. Iran Barkely SD12. I like Iran Barkely. That doesn't make him a great boxer. Ray Lampkin KO 14. Lampkin is good but by no means great. Carlos Palomino UD 10. A former champion at the end of his career. His biggest losses. Ray Leonard TKO 8. He quit. No other way around it He quit. Other boxers have been in bad situitians as well. The diffrence is they didn't quit. Wilfred Benitez UD 15. At 24 Benitez who became a champion at 17 was on the down side of his career. He had already lost to Leonard and would latter lose to Hearns. Marvin Hagler. UD 15. "But it was close and Duran was a lightweight fighting a middleweight" Duran's win over Leonard was close as well. What's the saying? "Close only counts in horseshoes". If it was a robbery. I wouldn't bring it up. No Duran was no longer a lightweight at the time. This fight took place in 1983. He last fought as a lightweight in 1978. By this thinking Manny Pacquiao is a flyweight and Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a super featherweight. Thomas Hearns TKO 2. I'm sure someone has some great excuse like he had to lose weight from the Hagler fight. He had 7 months to do that in and he only weighed 2 and a half pounds less. This is not a resume of an all time great. It takes more than skills and talent. You have to win the big fights. You got to win big fights more offten than you lose them. Duran more often than not came up short in big fights. He may have a lot of skills and talent. He may be popular. If he can't win the big fights and history shows that more often than not he lost the big fights. His ranking as an all time great can not be that high. His potentional in a head to head match up also must be questioned.
I'm not even surprised given who started the thread. This is the disingenuous little ***** who routinely goes onto the Lounge to defend Israeli soldiers from putting 8-year-old girls up against the wall and blasting their heads open, claiming that the naughty little suicide bombers deserved what they got. Don't expect any better guys. How many washed-up 38-year-old Lightweights could have stepped up and slugged it out against a monster Middleweight like Barkley? How would Mayweather have done against Hagler? How many natural MWs could have taken the left hook at 4:10 without being completely iced? And you claim Duran had no toughness? You probably haven't even watched the fights, you're just got your head too far rammed up your idol's arse to see it. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQs-KSD0R_M[/ame]
First of all Israeli soliers don't line up 8 year old girls or boys and shoot them. You lying peace of ****. Barkely was a good boxer but by no means a monster Middleweight. All I have to do is read that your location is London and know your a typical European Anti-Semite. Yes you made this personal.
So that one doesn't count then? So lopsidedly outpointing an arguable ATG Lightweight counts for nothing? So Saddler's victories over Pep are meaningless because he had to foul his way there? Peppermint Frazer, Viruet, Ray Lampkin, Ray Lampkin again, Ishimatsu, Medina. Essentially, his record reads like a who's-who of top Lightweight contenders in the mid-late 70s, in a very good (though not great) era for talent. And that's without looking at the film of him which exists, which doubtless you haven't. So a win for a Lightweight over a recent WW titleist with 10 (?) defences means nothing? Let me ask you this: How would DLH and Mosley got on with Cuevas? How would Cotto and Margarito got on? Mayweather gets wins over them and you'd be singing from the rooftops. Oh - and I guess Hearns gets no credit for that win either? And so this one doesn't count either? And I guess Mayweather's win over the past-it DLH who lost to every great fighter he faced doesn't count either on that account? No, but a 38-year-old former Lightweight successfully slugging it out with a boiled-down Light Heavy in his prime and scooping up a fourth title is absolutely a great win. How would Mayweather do with Barkley? How would Pernell Whitaker, Benny L do with him? So what? A win over a top-rated perennial contender is valueless? So Mayweather's win over Mosley doesn't count either? And I see you've ignored Duran's win over Marcel... I guess Marcel was just a bum Yes, it was absolutely shameful. However, making the leap from that to "Mayweather has more heart than Duran" - the man who has a reputation for avoiding everybody who might pose a threat to his transparent image - is ridiculous. Again, if you'd watched anything real of Duran you'd realise he fought wars across five decades and never backed down. Despite putting in arguably his most complete performance here? What a bum So it doesn't matter that a faded Duran only narrowly lost to arguably the best H2H Middleweight, in his prime (and some think he won the fight)? Leonard was a WW, Duran a LW. As I've said before: How would Benny and Pernell fair vs. Hagler? And again "Duran was a natural Middleweight" :roflatsch :rofl:rofl:rofl Go and hang yourself.