Bellew vs kovalev at CW

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah he does, kind of, KO4Clev, and Tony couldn't get him out in 24 including at CW. I highly doubt that Cleverly would have miraculously gone the distance 20 pounds north against Kovalev in a rematch either. Kovalev rehydrated to 190 against B-Hop and Pascal, so I doubt an additional 10 would be an issue for him.
     
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  2. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Kovalev batters him worst than pascal. He will get stalked by the jab and won't avoid the right hand. His heart will keep him upright for awhile but it will be a brutal one sided beat down .
     
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  3. dinovelvet

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    Bomber was a corpse at 175

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/29/article-2301145-18FE2865000005DC-612_634x370.jpg

    He's a fully fledged CW and has a height and reach advantage on top of being naturally bigger and heavier.

    Kovalev is low out put at 175 , he's not going to be any more active at Cruiser. He'd probably be slower and the extra weight would hinder his torque reducing his power.
    Every advantage would be going to Bellew. He'd break Krusher down and take him out late. Kovlev doesn't have a case to beat Macakbu , never mind Bellew.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Kov stole Clev's soul. Clev was never the same fighter after running into the Krusher. It took him years to regain even a semblance of the self-confidence he used to possess prior to getting obliterated by Kov. So Bellew is actually 0-1 against the real Nathan Clev and 1-0 against the ravaged alcoholic zero self-confidence ghost of him.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    And who again was Makabu's best win? Mchunu who would have cruised to victory if he didn't have **** gas tank. As chinny as Makabu is, he was seconds from being KO'd by Mchunu, in the 3rd IIRC and he was KO'd in his first match as well, at 175. Kovalev would have a great chance at sparking Makabu as would any other relatively heavy handed LHW. Maybe what you say could be true, but give Kovalev a warm up or 2 at CW, he smashes Bellew with relative ease.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Kov vs Clev is still one of my fav and one of Kov's most impressive performances. The version of Kov that fought Clev, Thompson, Campillo, and Sillakh was the best Kov, IMO. That Kov was an absolute animal and a nightmare to fight.

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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Its not about what these guys at cruiser have done for me. Its all about Kovalev doing anything at the weight and being totally unproven.
    His power might not even carry up. We all know Bellew does carry the power.
     
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  8. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean some kind of superpower? Surely you couldn't be referring to punching power.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Hitting power , yeah.

    It s there , don't know how but it there.
     
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  10. CST80

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    It certainly didn't carry up to HW, and if Bellew can carry his average power up, Kovalev can carry his above average power up too. Yeah Kovalev hasn't accomplished anything at CW, but damn if Vlasov can move up and gain power and spark Chakhkiev and take Chak's power, I'm sure Kovalev would do fine. Its an assumption, but all you're doing is assuming as well.
     
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  11. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bellew caught Makabu with a lucky punch, I'd give Makabu a pretty good shot in a rematch.

    I don't like Bellew so may be biased, but that's how I see it. Bellew's a good fighter with lots of heart, but technically a couple of levels below Kovalev or Ward.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Bellew has his wins to go off and you can add a HW win in there as well. Krusher has zero wins to go off so i have no way to gauge how he would do at CW.
    Bellew's power carried up because he returned to his natural weight class. 175 is Kovalev's natural weight class.
     
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  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No such thing as a 'lucky punch' .
     
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  14. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do think there is definitely an element of chance in boxing, hence the term.

    But anyway, what I am saying is that I think a rematch could easily go the other way. Would you agree or disagree with that?
     
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  15. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I haven't seen it so far. He did put Makabu to sleep after a "storm of fists", he didn't even notice that one of those punches actually did the job and kept throwing. Not the evidence of power in my book. Didn't see any power vs Haye either.
     
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