Benavidaz vs Morrell did 70,000 PPV buys

I'm not surprised. PBC on it's last legs and by not getting out of his contract, Benavidez's career is stalling.

 

Morrell´s lack of profile does not make it a good number. 160k is them barely scraping by.
Fact is that this should not have been a PPV.

And even with today´s illegal streaming availability, these are low numbers. Just look at what Spence managed to pull. Heck, even Tank Davis gets better numbers when fighting nobodies. And Tank did those numbers at 130 and 135!

 

Sound like you are yearning for Arab monopoly and domination of sports lol

 

It shouldn't have been on PPV and wouldn't have been in years past, yeah. But with PBC's lack of buzz, Morrell's lack of profile, the high price point and other viewing options, 100k+ probably was about as good as you could expect at this point. PBC just isn't in a great place atm.

It should be noted that this apparently drew well in terms of attendance and gate. So, DB is still a live draw and even in today's market that still counts for something.

 

It's comical that this fight between two light heavyweights who were competing to become the top contender for the Beterbiev-Bivol winner ... generated upwards of $12 million on PPV in the US ... a country where boxing is a niche sport ... yet people here are calling it a failure.

Wake me up when another PPV this year actually makes a profit.

Because those Riyadh shows lose tens if not a hundred million dollars or more for EACH CARD.

 

PBC actually has a really strong home in Las Vegas, when it comes to the live gate. Most of their cards do insane numbers. They have that **** on lockdown.
It´s probably why they can afford these low PPV numbers, because the live gate alone covers most of the production cost, if not all of it.

 

That's $12.8 million in PPV revenue in the U.S.

For two 20-something contenders fighting to become a mandatory challenger for the Beterbiev-Bivol winner.

Scraping by?

How many PPVs do you think Usyk-Fury sold in the U.S.?

Most of the buys for that came from the UK.

 

Yeah, Tank/Pitbull put 15k into the Staples center on a Sunday. Tank/Roach apparently has also sold-out Barclay's. Live gates are what's keeping them afloat right now. It's obviously not a business model that could sustain itself in the long term in this environment, but as an old school fan I don't hate to see it.

 

Usyk-Fury did not take place in the US, which automatically lowers the buys. I don´t see how that would be a fair comparison at all.

 

A fair comparison?

One is for the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE between two global stars most sports fans in the world have heard of ... a unification that was a year or more in the making ... and one is two 20-something light heavies trying to earn A SHOT ... at the light heavy world title.

You're right. It's not a fair comparison. Usyk-Fury should've sold five million PPVs at $100 a pop, like Mayweather-Pac. Instead, they sold it for $25 in the UK, still sold four times fewer PPVs, and lost hundreds of millions

$12.8 million for two contenders most sports fans don't know is absolutely fine. Better than fine.

Usyk-Fury 1 promotion lost, at minimum, $150 million.

It made $50 million on PPV globally, and the two main event guys spit $200 million in guaranteed purses. That's a negative -$150 million.

And in the rematch they both got $200 million in guaranteed purses again, and I don't think as many people even bought it. So it lost more than $150 million.

And people are still nitpicking on PBC, which is actually making money now. PBC is fine.

And PBC will be there to pick up the pieces when the Saudis decide not to annually lose a half a billion dollars a year on boxing.

 

Saudis overpaying for events that are happening in Saudi Arabia is a whole different subject. Their financial mishaps don´t justify the numbers PBC did with Benavidez.
PBC numbers here are low, there is no way around it. These fights should not even be on PPV.


No one is going to sell 5 million PPVs, even if they are a heavyweight. You seem to have forgotten how big of stars Floyd and Manny were.

 

And he's agreed to fight William Scull, Hamzah Sheeraz (who isn't even a super middleweight) ... and TBA.

(He was planning on fighting Bud Crawford in September whether he signed or not.)

Scull, Sheeraz and TBA. If he was fighting for PBC and it was announced those were three of the next four, would anyone think it was AWESOME?

People bitched when he agreed to fight Charlo, Munguia, Saunders, Plant and Berlanga ... but people are giddy over SCULL and Sheeraz and TBA?

Whatever man.

 

The fight was on PPV, and made close to $13 million in sales.

It would've made $13 million LESS if if wasn't on PPV.

Are you saying making $13 million MORE by putting it on PPV was a financial mishap?

You guys make zero sense, I swear.

$13 million is a REALLY BIG sales figure for two fighters who you folks feel SHOULDN'T be on PPV.

 

Boxing fans justifying every decent fight being on PPV just tickles me every time.
And no, I never said it was a financial mishap - I said that about the Saudi cards.

As a boxing fan, I don´t see why this should have been on PPV. Not every half decent fight should be. Crawford did similar numbers with Khan, and Porter. Both fights were seen as box office disappointments.
We should not be acting as if 160k is something to gloat over. It´s a middle finger to the fans.