Benavidez didn't look the same

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    looked soft to me. like he slacked on the training. flabby, low output, mouth breathing. maybe he got overconfident having had an easy time with gvozdyk previously in sparring. other than that, he still got them hands, and his defense was sound.
     
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  2. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On the contrary, this fight proved he's a bully. He is comfortable with fighters smaller than him but is mediocre against fighters of similar size to himself.

    And how could a 6' 2'' giant could be a natural 168??
     
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  3. Shazzar23

    Shazzar23 Demetrius Bivol Full Member

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    EXACTLY THIS. Guys like Benavidez and Haney are weight bullies BECAUSE they don't have the power/chin/stamina to fight at their natural weight. They force themselves to cut a ton of weight because it's the only advantage they have.
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    But he looked undersized against Gvozdyk so he's not a light heavyweight either. He may very well cut down a lot to make 168 but that always comes at a cost, there is a reason why many fighters don't do it, because the cost sometimes isn't worth the benefits.

    So what should DB do, stay at 175 where he is at a size disadvantage or move down where he's more effective? You obviously fight at your optimal weight which is what he has been doing.

    As for his height, there's been plenty of fighters who have been just as tall at 168 or even lower. Keith Holmes, Frankie Liles, Rocchigiani etc. He makes the weight within the rules and in the end that what matters. He's not breaking rules, hasn't been caught using diuretics or other drugs to make weight, so I personally don't have an issue with it.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Gvozdyk is still top 10 caliber at this point. Obviously the prime version would be top 3 at worst. In fact, he's actually ranked #7 by the Ring but the division is very weak at the moment outside of Beterbiev and Bivol.

    The Ring has Dan Azeez ranked at #6 who apparently won a gift tonight over an unheralded Croatian who lost to Botviniks who Gvozdyk stopped last time out.

    They have Buatsi ranked #3 behind Bivol but he's not that good. He's a good fighter but levels and levels below the likes of Beterbiev and Bivol.

    Would Buatsi beat this version of Gvozdyk? I'm not sure. Prime Gvozdyk would knock him out no doubt

    So Benavidez beat a top 10 guy in his first fight at the weight who is very tough and durable.

    Beterbiev, assuming he is the same after his injury and doesn't slip too much given his age (39), Bivol and Morrell are obviously the real threats at 175 for Benavidez. Whilst Yarde hasn't ever beaten anyone world class he is huge for the weight and powerful so a fight between him and Benavidez could be interesting.
     
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  6. tragedy

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    I only caught the last couple rounds and I guess Gvozdyk came on stronger at the end and look I'm not saying I could take those punches but...

    Man those Benavidez punches looked like sissy slaps. Maybe he was tired there but he just kept loading up those wild sissy slaps. This is the guy that beats Bivol, Beterbiev, Canelo? He's going to beat them with those wild sissy slaps? Was Gvozdyk ever hurt?
     
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  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    not seriously, but benavidez was landing some wicked body shots that i could tell were rearranging some organs. gvozdyk is a tough dude.
     
  8. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Did you guys notice they listed Benavidez as 6'0 and a half for the tale of the tape before the fight tonight? So that confirms this guy has been frauding his 6'2 height his whole career.
     
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  9. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Benavidez has that soft looking body

    He doesn't really cut up

    It's a genetic thing

    I don't think he is the huge monster people make him out to be

    Size wise he looked smaller than Gvozdyk at all times

    I'm guessing Benavidez is just lazy and not disciplined

    People talking about him belonging at CW :lol:
     
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  10. boxfap

    boxfap USA! USA! USA!

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    I dont think the height makes the difference, natural build and bone structure are more important. Paul Williams was 6'2 and a natural 147 fighter. Fundora is 6'6 and makes 147 though I think he'd be much more comfortable at 154. Benavidez doesnt have the natural build of a 175 pounder, his build is too slight. He might struggle to make 168 but that doesnt mean he a natural 175 fighter
     
  11. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    At 6'0 and a half I'm starting to think he might be too small for 175.
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Benavidez weighs 185 ish at 168

    Gvozdyk weighed 184 and 185 against Chilemba and Gonzalez and said he would be 190 tonight

    Benavidez would've obviously come in heavier than he was at 168. Gvozdyk was just more muscular
     
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  13. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t think he can make 168lb no mores,
    Canelo weighted him out.
     
  14. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    This was pathetic, Gvodzyk wasn’t even trying. Straight up sparring.

    Gvodzyk varies the power on his shots in between his lighter punches. Tonight he just stuck to light punches.

    Was he afraid of Benavidez’s counterpunches? its funny that he wasn’t afraid of bigger heavier hitting better counterpuncher in Beterbiev..and he was happy to throw hard shots at Beterbiev.

    Inactivity doesn’t stop you from throwing hard shots.

    Gvodzyk was Canelo’s sparring partner (who has had numerous fixed fights imo) so I’m not in the least surprise this was a fixed fight.

    I think a lot of people on this forum are naive to straight up believe all these fights are real
     
  15. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gvozdzyk before the Beterbviev fight would have got a knockout last night