Benavidez is an overhyped weight bully who looked bad cuz he fought a guy his size

Nah. Gvozdyk was clearly bigger. Benavidez looked soft and Gvozdyk was solid and still bigger looking.

 

Can't read past your first sentence, my man.

Weight bully ???


I take a very, very, very dim view of anyone using that term.

I think it could reasonably be a banning offence, maybe even a permanent banning offence.

You could make a decent case for capital punishment as well, though that might be a bit extreme.

I think a one year ban and a good ****-kicking would extinguish the use of this ludicrously loathsome term once and for all.


Something to think about.



(No offence, Dorian).

 

Nothing impressive about a weight bully finally fighting someone his size and throwing combinations at a guy who tippy taps the whole fight.

I don’t just t hink the Gvodzyk that fought Beterbiev would have beaten Benavidez. I actually think this Gvodzyk who actually throws hard punches beats him.

Benavidez threw huge cocked bombs at Gvodzyk who ate them like nothing. He didn’t even care he just took them and a lot of them. So that kinda defeats the idea that Gvodzyk was scared of any counterpunches. He was fine to throw hard punches against heavy hitting monster and a better counterpuncher in Beterbiev and actually stunned him…but then refuses to do so against a smaller Benavidez.

Ladies, boxing has a LOT of fixed fights

 

this place still has too many idiots that dksab, and just here dealing with their insecurities.

 

Looked bad? He won the fight.

 

Weight Bully ?? That's Canelo's thing But even though he fights at 3 weight classes above Crawford he's STILL reluctant to fight him. Canelo needs to MAN UP !! or GET OUT !! he's just playing the casuals for fools. Shows how bad he got hammered by Dmitry Bivol even his Vegas judges couldn't help him out AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

 

Benavidez looked ok. Nobody is questioning that decision.

Gvozdyk was a credible, if a bit faded, opponent.

It's just that Benavidez did not live up to the "monster" hype. It's clear he's got some work to do to dominate at 175.

 

That’s what I’m saying. Gvozdyk was huge in there and in crazy good shape. Benavidez wins clear against a quality opponent and people still hate.

 

But you could say that about other fighters and other attributes. If RJJ wasn't so fast, Hearns wasn't so tall and rangy, if Calzaghe didn't have such a great engine, if Fury wasn't so damn big etc. You use what gifts and advantages you have, whatever they may be. In his case he can cut a lot of weight and it not effect him as badly as others.

I see all this criticism over supposed weight bullies as a double standard, that we throw at fighters we don't like. The heavyweight division is the ultimate weight bully division, you have guys coming in with huge advantages in size and weight and they don't even need to dehydrate down the same weight. Yet we don't have people saying "That Lennox Lewis what a weight bully" or "That Tyson Fury, what a weight bully." We simply accept that there is a big size and weight advantage at heavyweight for some, even more so than at the lower weights, but when someone decides to use there size and ability to cut weight we scream weight bully.

 

Many on this forum believe fighters never get old and never decline.

Like Spinks beating an old Ali is the same as being a young Ali or Marciano beating an old Louis is the same accomplishment that beating Louis in his prime would have been.

Gvozdyk is a well schooled boxer but nolonger has the snap, explosiveness and reflexes he showed in his younger days.

That doesn't mean he threw the fight.

 

What? No that is totally different. Weight bullies tend to be fighters with a-side privileges, and Benavidez is a typical manufactured overrated hypejob. He will never go down as a great, and the struggles will be real now that he isn't beating up on smaller mediocre opposition. Of the examples you used - Hearns moved up and had success as he went up in weight and is an ATG respected by the vast majority of boxing fans. There are no weight bullies at heavyweight because there is no limit in the division, the lower weight divisions all have limits for a reason, because size triumphs skill eventually. Benavidez will have very limited success at LHW unless he waits and tries to age out Bivol/Beterbiev, and picks up a vacant belt/s against a mediocre opponent. Many boxing fans don't like these manufactured frauds with carefully directed and steered careers which are very easy to see through. I just don't see this hypocrisy that you're seeing here.

 

Yeah that's one area I disagree on OP with. Gvozdyk has clearly seen better days, so there's no reason to suggest that he threw the fight. Benavidez's handlers knew he declined enough for the risk to be worth it.

 

This.
I get so tired of posts where someone says things like that as if 2 million people were saying it. It's just a super lazy generalization based on almost nothing to try and fuel their own agendas. WHO thought Gvoz was going to win? Certainly not Vegas. Are there even 10 people on this forum who would have bet their house on him?

Benevidez didn't look like a monster certainly, but he won. Gvoz didn't honestly look like a guy who wanted to win either.