Benavidez is nothing special in terms of skills

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  1. LoveThis

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    What I like most about benavidez is that he Brings something different. No other boxer on that level tries to get into mid range and then fires shots like that. Just outgunning the opponent. Doesn't even look like combinations. Doesn't look Like he plans it. He just lives there, it's natural for him. Really fast precise chaotic punching.

    Monster is so fitting as a nickname. He stalks his opponent and pushes into range more and more and once he is there, he overwhelms and suffocates his opponent.

    So he is obviously very skilled but on dimensions we usually don't give attention to when talking about 'skilled boxers'.

    I'm very glad he stopped chasing canelo who couldn't run away fast enough while pretending to be above him. In light heavy he can contribute to some of the most intriguing matchups in boxing.

    Btw I don't know how so many people are still sleeping on bivol. Most rank him p4p #4 but then you hear some people diminish him... Bivol is amazing and bivol benavidez would be very interesting. If they were the same size, he would easily win. But they are not so I would gladly watch it
     
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  2. Serge

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    It might sound strange but I was a bit underwhelmed by Benavidez's performance vs Yarde. I usually find him more exciting to watch, not to say he wasn't vs Yarde, especially during those final two rounds, but I felt he lacked his usual intensity for most of the fight. Yes, Yarde's tactics played a big part in that but the Benavidez we saw in the back half of round 6 and round 7 is the one I'm used to seeing and he looked great when he put his foot down on the pedal and went to town on Yarde. So when others where saying how impressive he looked I was like, yeah, but he usually comes out in that gear from the start or shifts into it much earlier than he did.

    Yarde was holding his own in the early going even if he wasn't banking rounds. Maybe Benavidez was mindful of his power and believed the hype about him hurting Beterbiev but Yarde was throwing pity pats for the most part

    This is the Benevidez who I like best and who first caught my eye

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    I think that Benavidez could've got Yarde out of there earlier just like a prime Kovalev who was actually throwing with full power would've got him out of there in a couple of rounds as opposed to it taking the past prime McGirt trained Kovalev who was much more of a boxer than a boxer puncher 11 rounds
     
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  3. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    David commented on that and said he is trying to change his 168 mindset of just jumping on people and brawling immediately because he was so much bigger than them. He said he knows vs bigger punchers in these divisions he needs to fight smarter and come in behind a jab more. With that said he probably would have got it on much earlier if Yarde had stepped to him, but he is definitely refining his style a bit.
     
  4. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the OP does have a point, Benavidez is far from an unskilled brawler but he's not as technical as Usyk, Bivol or Crawford.

    However, he is an impressive physical specimen in addition to his elite-level skills so I'm very curious to see how far he goes. He also gives 100% and stays composed very well.

    I think a match against Zurdo next would be very interesting, I favour Benavidez there but not overwhelmingly. Zurdo may have lost badly to Bivol but styles make fights, as @CST80 posted earlier the stylistic matchup may not favour David so much. Speaking of Bivol, if not Zurdo, David should fight Bivol at LHW, although I do think Bivol has some technical advantages I could see David's volume and accuracy posing real problems.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No, I mean marginally better. I hate to break it to you, but it's becoming increasingly apparent that you're a delusional fanboy. Chris Billam-Smith actually has a comparable resume to Benavidez. The man has beaten genuine beasts at the weight like Okolie, Riakporhe and Glanton, all of whom would probably beat down and stop Benavidez. CBS was the underdog in two of those three matches. Benavidez hasn't been the underdog in years. Sure, on paper Benavidez has the shinier resume, but the Gvozdyk win which he faded down the stretch in and lost the last 5 rounds. Had Gvozdyk entered the match believing in himself, and started 2 rounds earlier we'd all be talking about the gift Benavidez received. The Morrell fight arguably was a gift, and that's a Morrell who was coming off of getting a gift against Hot Rod, and going on to get a gift against Khataev. Even if you disagree, it was way too close for comfort. Andrade and Lemieux were blown up Middleweights at the end of their careers. Plant was coming off of a vicious beating at the hands of Canelo and went on to have his **** pushed in by a Light Middleweight in Resendez. Yet David couldn't stop a sitting duck. Yarde might have put up more of a fight had he come in and aggressively tried to walk him down and overpower him, keeping him on the backfoot, but Yarde and his idiot trainer combined don't have the ring IQ of a mollusk. The Davis, Dirrell, Gavril, Angulo, and Ellis wins, get the **** out of here! They're bordering on meaningless. Whereas Chris Billam-Smith's wins over Chamberlain, Masternak, McCarthy and Xhoxhaj are comparable.

    His power proved less than impressive at 168, it's all but disappeared at 175, and it will be non-existent at 200. The only thing he's had the advantage with is his volume and size, at Cruiserweight, he will not have anything resembling a size advantage, and if his power is even less effective, someone like yes... Chris Billam-Smith could wreck him. His skillset is not as impressive as you've convinced yourself it is. He certainly isn't a defensive whiz, Gvozdyk landed 163 punches on David, Morrell landed 165 punches on David, if someone like Opetaia lands that many, well... nevermind, if he lands half that, David will be unconscious. Get a grip!;)
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not gonna lie. I wanna see Canelo Out-Mexican Style the Mexican Monster and chop down that tree trunk of a man with devastating body shots and watch Davey Boy curl up into a fetal position like Beefy Smith did. :sisi1
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Makes sense but I don't feel like that was the case when he fought Gvozdyk and Morrell at 175. I feel the intensity was there from the get-go or much earlier. But maybe I'm remembering it wrong
     
  9. Boxed Ears

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    A lot of people with much rarer skills are lesser fighters, could be a different point of focus.
     
  10. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    I would say he is still adjusting and learning from those fights, after he couldn't get them out of there early like he thought.
     
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  11. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    What a bunch beasts, especially Glanton who lost to a 3-0 fighter. Those names are clearly comparable to the 6 world champions David has beat up. I'm not sure how I can be delusional if David keeps doing what I have been predicting for the last 3 years. The haters on the other hand..

    Feel free to quote my delusional prediction in 6 months of David battering Zurdo from pillar to post and likely stopping him.:)
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    A roided up currently banned for 5 years 3-0 fighter, who also dominated Kudryashov in his 2nd fight and Papin in his 5th, who'd beat the **** out of Benavidez as well. I take it you didn't see the David Light match, which Glanton won with ease. So that loss meant nothing as well.

    For the record, it's called hubris.;)

    For what it's worth, I can't stand Okolie or Riakporhe, I hate watching them both, but if you think they wouldn't tear Benavidez's face off, you clearly don't know **** about boxing.
     
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    You think these guys wreck Benavidez? That Okolie is the guy you are calling a beast? lol. He makes Yarde look like Ali. He is a total can. stop taking the pi ss. Riakporhe at least has some co ordination but that's it. You need more than big muscles to beat the monster. Yarde fight should have made that obvious. That's one of the worst fights you could ever see.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Goddamn... you are that stupid.:facepalm:
     
  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Benavidez is ****ing dangerous, you can’t be that dangerous without being skilled.
     
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