Benavidez vs Canelo?

Not true You keep the garbage going. Come on you bull****ter wheres that copy of the lab report? if youd been present you know for yourself ,so go talk to yourself. You should see the messages ive got here from the majority of the board members agreeing with what ive said & most are from the good guys not guys like drenlou

 

Same thing remains all the way from your 1st post. Make a thread. Show proof. Or shut up. Nobody cares this much. If you do you'd easily be able to muster the energy to make a standalone thread and show proof. Do i need to make the thread for you?

 

Youre all mouth & very little else Its the people making ludicrous claims of Loaded gloves that have to provide the evidence,The Accusers The State commission couldn't so they railroaded him wonder how much that cost Floyd & Oscar lol

 

Benavidez style is all wrong for Canelo but I would love to see this fight as any fight fan for that matter. Wonder when we'll get it. The fight will inevitably happen at 168 and I suspect it will play in Canelo's favor as Benavidez will be quite drained making 168.

 

I don't think Benavidez can make 168 any more and at this point I don't think he'd accept a Canelo fight anymore at 168. Because one of the main reasons David wanted to fight him was because he was Undisputed. Now that Canelo isn't Undisputed anymore I don't think Benavidez really has any reason to go back down to 168, given that he's clearly outgrown that division and now can't challenge for Undisputed.

I think that ship has sailed and Benavidez has now moved on and is fully committed to 175. If it does happen down the road it would happen at 175 and that's not advantageous to Canelo because he's better at 168. This is why I thought Canelo should have fought him at 168 while he still could where he has the best chance to win, and as Undisputed to give the fans what they wanted. Canelo has made it clear he still wants the rematch with Bivol at 175 though I'm not sure he'll get it ahead of Benavidez, if Bivol beats Beterbiev.

And I don't think Canelo shoud be able to get a shot at Bivol ahead of Benavidez now that Benavidez is campaigning there. If Bivol wins I could see Bivol fight Benavidez then maybe Canelo would challenge the winner. If Beterbiev beats Bivol then likewise I would expect Beterbiev Benavidez then maybe Canelo could move up to challenge whoever is the Undisputed Champion next year or the year after. But it will be very difficult for another year ot two older Canelo to move up to 175 and beat either of those men at 175.

 

I feel like a Canelo fight would yield too much money for any fight not to take it - undisputed or not. At that stage, I feel like belts to some degree are irrelevant especially recognizing that you're fighting the most heralded and beloved active Mexican fighter today and a fight that will yield you the biggest monetary outcome. You will make the weight for it.

I personally don't know how effective Benavidez will be at 75. It felt like his power didn't transfer over as well as he thought it would. Canelo knows this fight will happen but he's finding the right moment. Floyd did the same with Pacquiao.

 

It's nothing like what Floyd did with Pacquiao. That's a bad comparison. For one, Floyd was older than Pacquiao, and when Floyd ducked him for as long as he did Pacquiao was looking unbeatable. Also Pac was coming up from lower weights, where as Benavidez is younger and bigger than Canelo, and just struggled with Plant a guy that Canelo already beat. Many said that if Benavidez looked vulnerable against Plant that would entice Canelo to make the fight, which didn't happen. As to your other points :

His power may not transfer over, but he's a problem for anyone there due to his activity level. He has the size to trouble Bivol in a way that Canelo couldn't, and he has the activity to outpoint Beterbiev if he doesn't get caught with a big shot. As far as the winner of Bivol Beterbiev fighting Canelo before Benavidez, I don't think Bivol would take, because he's already beaten Canelo at 175 and doesn't seem to care about the money as much as other fighters, he would I think have more of an incentive to fight Benavidez first. If Beterbiev won I could see maybe Beterbiev choosing to fight Canelo as one last big payday and the fact that he's much older. The only way I see Beterbiev beating Bivol is by hurting him, if it goes the distance I just don't see how Beterbiev outpoints Bivol over 12 rounds.

 

It isn't about going the way I want it to. It's just a waste of time. It's not like you are in front of me so we could watch fights and I could show you what I see. You don't see it. You don't agree with a trainer who has also mentioned it. Commentators in the past have mentioned it as well. There's nothing left to talk about lol. You see it differently.

 

That comment wasn't specifically you, just the use of the quote in general. I just hate it because I only see it used during the moments I mentioned above.

Regarding our conversation.....I see your point and agree on that aspect. It's much easier when we could sit down and watch the fight in person and dissect it from our own views so we could both have a better understanding of each other's vantage points. No I don't fully agree with someone just because they are a respected trainer and/or a commentator because I've seen/heard those guys get it wrong multiple times as well. That's like going to church and just believing everything said by the preacher simply because he's a preacher. I'm not built that way. I always check the logic and evaluate based on what I see and know of the situation.

Not saying I'm always right, because I'm no where close to being perfect......according to my ex wife.....I'm never right about anything....lol.

But yea, this conversation can be deaded for that reason, respectfully. I appreciate the exchange. Til next time homie.

 

Respect but that analogy is off in this regard. Stewart didn't make a blanket statement. He backed up his statement based on what Canelo was doing in the ring. You're taking it as he just said something without any evidence to support it and people are believing simply because of who he is. That wasn't the case. Now whether you agree with it is a completely different manner but he supported his statement. But like I said before, there's no point in going back and forth because we are literally talking about eye test. What you see or anyone for that matter could differ. If you are adamant that you don't see an issue with Canelo's stamina, then it is what it is. I can't or anyone for that matter make you see something you don't see.