Benavidez Vs Gvozdyk in June

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  1. IsaL

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    We absolutely would. He wanted to fight Golovkin in 2017 FFS.
     
  2. IsaL

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    You'll be glad to know that it's a lie. Sampson Lewkowicz took down the post after Reynoso stated they have never received an offer.
     
  3. steviebruno

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    So why hasn't he fought anyone seven years later, FFS?

    Anyway, Mungia is being groomed for a Canelo payday. Please explain why he would risk losing that by facing Benavidez.
     
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    He took the post down? ;)
     
  5. IsaL

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    You're just making baseless assumptions.

    Munguia is now starting to peak. He just fought Derevyanchenko, and destroyed Ryder with his new HoF trainer Freddie Roach.. that's not to far behind Benavidez' resume.

    Canelo already said he wasn't fighting a Mexican next, so why not put the ball in Munguia's court?

    It could very well be that Benavidez knows he's having a difficult time making 168 and they're not ready at cashing out against 168 against Canelo.

    My guess is they probably want Canelo atb175 because at 168 Canelo's body attack my be too much for Benavidez.
     
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  7. Jackman65

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    Good fight but risky one for Benavidez. Gvoz is not the fighter he was when he fought Bterbiev but he’s a skilled boxer and knows how to fight. I like both fighters and expect a good one. If winner fights Bivol Beterbiev as they are saying, LH could heat up. These are the best guys in the division fighting the best guys. That’s rare these days.
     
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  8. steviebruno

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    I like Munguia and I think that he would be a live dog vs. Canelo. That being said, Mungia is in line to fight Canelo. He is not looking at Benavidez because it makes absolutely no sense for him to do so.

    Benavidez has been calling Canelo out for years at 168; I am not sure why you are posting that he is suddenly afraid of Canelo at the weight, when Canelo has actively ducked him and taken the path of least resistance when the entire boxing world wanted to see them fight.

    Benavidez has decided to get on with his life instead of letting Canelo pull the puppet strings on his career. His ambitions have always exceeded just one fight, and Canelo's ducking has already delayed what he was trying to accomplish. Let him try.

    PBC is cool with it because they think that Mungia
    A) Can actually beat Canelo

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    B) Feel that Munguia may be more marketable than DB.

    I wouldn't be surprised if PBC gave Benavidez a considerable amount of step aside money to get him to move off his mark.
     
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  9. drenlou

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    If Benevidez loses he loses the Canelo sweepstakes as well, and he would only have himself to blame.
     
  10. Jackman65

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    I would blame Canelo because Benavidez has been calling him out forever and he’s the guy Canelo should be fighting. Maybe he realized Canelo was going to duck him forever and decided to move on. Bivol schools all these guys if he stays healthy and focused. Beterbiev will be his biggest test. If he gets by that test, he easily beats Benavidez. As easy as he beat Canelo.
     
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  11. drenlou

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    Benevidez was always going to be the last fight on Canelos PBC contract, but I understand why he doesn't want to wait around. He needs to stay busy, but the Nail isn't some tuneup fight that he's guaranteed a win, this is stylistically a bad matchup for him and if he loses the demand for a fight with Canelo takes a huge hit.
     
  12. IsaL

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    Benavidez hasn't really been in Canelo's radar until last March when he became the official mandatory when he beat Canelo's leftover Plant.

    Before that Canelo was busy with the two other Champions at SMW.

    Had Benavidez not lost his title he would have been able to defend his WBC title against Canelo. Instead it was vacant and Canelo and Smith fought for it.

    It doesn't matter if Benavidez has been calling Canelo out since he became pro, Benavidez has not had nothing to offer, and just recently last March got in a position to fight Canelo.

    Now one week away from being able to enforce his mandatory status he suddenly moves to 175 to fight Gvozdyk? How does that make sense if you're serious about fighting Canelo?

    If Benavidez wanted a championship and a money fight, Munguia is there for the taking of Canelo decided not to give him a shot and vacated.

    Again, how does it make sense to not enforce your mandatory status one week from the deadline, if you've been waiting 11 months and three weeks to do so?

    Mungia is Golden Boy Promotion. PBC is getting a smaller percentage than a Benavidez fight with Canelo. No way PBC prefers Canelo-Munguia and have to split the money with GBP.
     
  13. IsaL

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    It doesn't matter how long he's been calling Canelo out. What matters is when he became the mandatory.

    Benavidez became the mandatory last March. He was one week away from being able to enforce his mandatory status and have Canelo commit to a fight or be stripped.

    Let's assume Canelo would have still declined to commit to fighting Benavidez next week (which I highly doubt) then Canelo loses his WBC title, and now Benavidez gets to fight for it or gets promoted to it.

    Now with the WBC title available, he can go after the second biggest money fight between 168-175, Jaime Munguia.

    Instead he decides to move to 175? Makes no sense. The title opportunity was there at 168, and the two biggest money fights for him are at 168.

    My guess is he probably was having a difficult time making 168 and knew Canelo would be stronger, or Al Haymon is moving his pieces carefully. One or the other.
     
  14. IsaL

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    But why leave 168. Jaime Munguia is the second biggest money fight available to Benavidez.

    If Canelo said no to the fight then he could fight Munguia for the WBC title. Instead he's fighting Gvozdyk for the interim putting himself back in the same situation he was in for the last two years because there's no guarantees that Beterbiev or Bivol would fight him either, and either of those three fights, Bivol, Beterbiev, Gvozdyk are not going to pay him what Canelo or Munguia would.
     
  15. drenlou

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    Benevidez isn't going to fight Munguia right now, everybody is after the Canelo sweepstakes but I don't understand why Benevidez would risk losing everything by fighting Gvozdyk, if he loses then we all better forget about the Canelo fight.
     
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