Benn, Eubank, Watson, Collins v Ward? Who has the best chance to upset SOG?

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  1. norfolkinchance

    norfolkinchance Active Member Full Member

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    i disagreee. benn was far m oore than 35% then 70%.

    he was prob ablout 75% against watson and he lost convincingly. who is to say watson would not have improved and added to his skillset over time too?

    and benn didnt carry his npower up much to super imo. lost that devastating edge to it. still heavy handed but not quite as devastating at middle and he never really cleaned anyone out at super
     
  2. Box-Fan

    Box-Fan Active Member Full Member

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    No, he was a total one trick pony when he fought Watson and was 50% at best, not taking anything away from Watson by the way great win and performance but Benn was FAR from what he became.
     
  3. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Benn had everything needed to beat Ward. And people forget but for a judges scoring discepency Benn would have won the Malinga rematch too its moot cos he was finished mentally by than.

    The hungry driven Eubanks of 1990-93 would have been a tough match for Ward but Ward wins it

    Watson we didnt really see his peak, but on what we did see his style makes for a ward stoppage.

    Collins was a very tough man but didnt have the skill set of a benn or eubanks at their peak and i see ward handling him 120-108.

    Herol Graham should be included in this thread at his very best he was right on a par with mike mccallum in their fight and he pretty much split 2 with Kalambay.

    I think Benn and Graham are very very capable of beating ward at his best
     
  4. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Malinga deserved the nod in the second fight, clearly.

    And how does Ward stop Watson ? Have you seen the punishment he took off Mccallum ? Ward wouldnt stop any 4 of these fighters.
     
  5. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    How overrated is Benn? Ffs...
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Watson and Benn both improved after they met.
     
  7. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Theres no way in hell the benn who lost to watson was 75% LOl
    He was a one trick pony in early 89. physically he didnt have the stamina or different gears he later developed in tenerife, he didnt have the bob and weave defence nailed,he added lateral movement later too and mentally he didnt have the IQ of later years the boxing skills.

    Ward stops Watson . The beating Watson took off Mccallum is irrelevent. Mccallum was a slow burner who administered a slow torturous beating that night. Ward is far fleeter of hand and foot and watson was relativelly one dimensional he was at his best countering and against ward he would be forced to lead like he was against Mccallum.

    But i would countenance that by saying its clear Watson would have improved dramatically if his career hadnt been ended in 91 just as benn did.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I agree that Benn was nowhere near his best in 1989. The fighter Watson beat was more or less the same fighter who almost got KO'd by Anthony Logan.

    But Watson in 1991 was an improved version too.

    I'd pick both of them to beat Ward actually. Maybe it's unfair because I haven't seen Ward truly tested yet.
     
  9. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Benn was in incredible physical condition in 87-89, and was faster and more powerful than the later Benn. He threw about 500 power punches in 5 rounds in that Watson fight, all with max power and lightning speed and every angle imaginable. He wasn't that good, physically, again.

    But technically and tactically, he gradually improved wonderfully in a few years.