Benn, Jones, Jackson, McClellan: who hit the hardest?

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What fight are you talking about?:blood

Douglas flopped to the floor and seemed more concerned about having a bleeding nose than beating the count. Eddie Futch when interviewed about the outcome of the fight was disgusted with Douglas.

Douglas admitted taking a dive in the last great fight by Joe Layden

McCallum was a concussive puncher at lmw, but never carried his power up to mw. Nunn on the flip side was more of an arm puncher, but he could bang when he planted his feet as he did in the Kalambay fight. Overall I would say they were about the same at mw

Yes, seriously

 

You cannot use that defense here. Either you remember the fight or you dont

Douglas kept throwing the uppercut from way outside and eventually got caught with a counter. He flopped on the floor lifted his head and kept wiping his nose clearly looking to see if his nose was bleeding. As if that would somehow justify not getting back up.

Douglas most likely would not of gone the distance, but that would of been more due to his lack of conditioning than Holyfield's punching power.

You do that

No.

He hurt the durable Roldan and eventually stopped him in eight
Going into the Kalambay fight he had around 23 ko's in 32 fights.

1: No one said it was a great indicator, but its really the only one with have. ko % don't mean much. One guy might have beat more journeyman than another guy

2: Nunn was basically an arm puncher, which meant that he was going for speed over power. During parts of the Roldan fight he set down on his punches and was able to hurt Roldan, at other times he was basically flurrying. If he sat down on his punches more than I'm sure he would of got more ko's. So I can't see how the common opponent argument is flawed here. You obviously have to take things like this into account

But this is a guess on your part and no more accurate than my common opponent approach.

Are you serious?

He fought the majority of that fight with a bleeding brain and quit when the pain got too unbearable. Benn's rabbit punching could not have helped either

 

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Does he look hurt to you?

 

Douglas wasn't hurt. He had gotten up from that massive uppercut which Tyson had hit him with, so there's no way a right hook from a pumped up cruiser was going to seriously hurt him.

Years later when he was interviewed about it he admitted he didn't get up because he was tired.

 

He actually trained for the Tyson fight, something which he really didn't do much of for the Holyfield fight.

 

Neither Nunn or McCallum were seen as big punchers at mw, but a case could get made than Nunn was the bigger puncher, when he made a point of actually planting his feet. Hence the reason he was able to get Kalambay out in a round, something which McCallum could not do in 24 rounds.

 

NO

It means you have to use examples were :
1: the opponent does not quit
2: the opponent actually trains for the fight

Which is why I would not use the Holyfield-Douglas fight as a example.