Benny Leonard calls Primo Carnera's defense "Marvelous"

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Yes there has and I've addressed it here.
     
  2. janitor

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    The fight was before his prime, and Gains was one of the best heavyweights in the world.

    It doesn’t really need an excuse!
     
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  3. choklab

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    I think a lot of folks are in denial. Carnera embodies accepted super heavyweight characteristics. He belongs in discussions with other superheavyweight sized champions.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    Bull sh*T! He had 61 fights when he fought Gains!
     
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  5. mcvey

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    No not a lot ,just a very small percentage.
     
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  6. Man_Machine

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    Oh - there it is....
     
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  7. janitor

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    The obvious explanation would be that Haynes was simply a step up in competition and a step too far for a man in Carnera's condition.

    It’s not rocket science.
     
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  8. janitor

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    That is the simple truth of the matter.
     
  9. Man_Machine

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    :lol:
     
  10. choklab

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    And jack sharkey lost fights too. So did Braddock, Schmeling and Max Baer. Vitali and Wlad come to think of it, They still won the title. When contenders fought each other so often you can't write anyone off for one close competitive decision loss at top level.
     
  11. janitor

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    That doesn’t necessarily mean that he was in his prime.

    Let’s look at the known facts:

    Pretty much all of his world level wins came after the Gains fight.

    He got a new trainer and changed his style significantly after the gains fight.

    It would therefore be reasonable to conclude that he got better after the Gains fight.
     
  12. Man_Machine

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    So Carnera's prime was somewhere during 1933 and 1935, after which time, he was on the slide but during which he was battered from pillar to post in his worst outing ever.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    And he wasn't threatened with a gun ,
    had pepper rubbed in his eyes by his second., or had his corner throw in the towel for no discernable reason.
     
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  14. Man_Machine

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    Yes - because Haynes went on to big things, after Carnera.

    And what's this fascination with rocket science?
     
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  15. mcvey

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    It wasn't a close competitive fight .Gains won it easily he is described as overwhelming Carnera.
     
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