Benny Leonard calls Primo Carnera's defense "Marvelous"

That newspaper report was written by who?? Was it written by somebody outranking the boxing know how of champions who either fought or watched Primo live? Max Schmeling knew what he was talking about. He masterminded and implemented Joe Louis's first defeat.. he wrote:

"In fact, his reach was much greater than any opponent, and the leverage that gave him enabled his punches to penetrate almost any defence. In contrast to the experts, I had always considered Carnera to be a technically sound boxer, so I was not in the least suprised to hear he had knocked Sharkey out in the sixth round to become the second European to win the world heavyweight title".


but I guess you would rather absorb some guys opinion who reports on boxing one day, baseball the next and perhaps does publicity for some agent somewhere..

 

LOL. I am not clutching at straws at all. If I had the time to do the research and collect the articles, I could produce many, many examples of commentary on Primo's lack of Boxing skills.

What I produced in relation to the Haynes fight was just an example of how Primo's crummy defense had become a 'known' factor about him.

What I find amazing is your reference to films that show Carnera getting walloped with excessive ease and regularity; beyond anything that would indicate a tight defense and these breaches being cause by disadvantaged opponents, in terms of size and reach, to boot.

But you hail these as examples of him being technically adept; even comparable to Riddick Bowe.

In my opinion, that type of perspective is to Boxing Analysis, what tone-deafness is to Opera.

 

mcvey, Why couldn't Baer land against Loughran and Braddock both won by jabbing?

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Watch Gains tee off on Carnera and tell me with straight face that Carnera had good defence.

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Watch novice Impelletiere out box Carnera early on and tell me honestly that Carnera had good defence. It looks crude and wild because it is.

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Neither am I.

 

Or maybe Joe Louis' opinion?

 

Are you surprised by Max Schmeling, Jim Jeffries, Benny Leonard, Larry gains, jack Dempsey, Jack sharkey who are either quoted as saying Carnera was better than given credit for, a good boxer, technically sound, a damaging puncher just the same and in the case of Dempsey that they saw nothing remotely suspicious in the way he fought.

 

Joe Louis said what he said. In comparison to him everybody had nothing. He said Primo made faces at him. Acted foolish around him. That the press made a deal of their fight being the personification of a Italy versus Ethiopia in a war. Most likely he was aware of how he worded things in light of this. He said Primo had nothing and that he lifted Primo up in a clinch. I don't know it's up to joe. But he also rated that win rather highly when discussing his best opponents.

 

I'm not above accepting that when a writer chooses to use the words..."but, and again, as usual, [Carnera's] defense had become impotent" they mean to imply this had been seen before and was not an unexpected surprise.

As I have mentioned to Janitor, I could find lots of examples of these types of commentary on Carnera. They are not isolated, off-the-wall instances of rogue writing.

But, at the end of the day, I've seen enough of Carnera to know he was limited, across the board, and in no way would have been able to succeed in this present era of Super Heavyweights.

 

Wrong yet again! Carnera had more experience of fighting Super heavies than any fighter up to the present! Impelletiere was a novice and he out boxed Carnera until he ran out of gas.
Carnera had fought:
Jose Santa
George Godfrey
Victor Campolo x2 The last time only 3 months earlier!
Bearcat Wright
Seal Harris
John Shwake
George Trafton
Impelletiere had fought Santa.
You should have stuck to the training section, because your credibility took a real nose dive when you began your Jeannette crusade and continued arguing with yourself for several pages. Now the fact that you're a certified dingbat is out there for all to see! Not a move of tactical brilliance!

 

Since today's super hwts in general can't fight a lick Carnera would do reasonably well. At least Carnera knew how to parry!

 

So according to one paper he won a round by default? Impressive!

Louis said Carnera had no power and pushed his right yet he uppercuts Sharkey to unconsciousness with the same hand?