Benny Leonard calls Primo Carnera's defense "Marvelous"

Well - to be fair to the 'Pro-Carnera Crew', they have asserted that Carnera was an all-round technician and that the film proves it.

Oh wait... ...

 

A mature answer, well mature for you.

 

Now now Mummy will be cross!

 

It was previously known that the majority of champion fighters rated Carnera even after the hysteria kicked in after primo lost the title. The facts you are talking about is just that news men backlash to primos loss of the title. The "new information" you talk of is the film, and it just uncovers what the real fight people had been saying all along. That primo was a fair champion in his own right.

Revaluation of Carnera is topical right now since he represents everything that the modern Super heavyweights have become. It not new or revisionist to say so. Carnera is relevant to discussion on this new order. Even his uppercut is reminiscent of Joshua's on Wlad.

This paranoid response to the common viewpoint from the fight people that Primo eventually became a legit force for a time is quite telling.

People wanting to defend the unreasonable folklore version of events started by newsmen looking for a story (weak chin, could not box, an exposed, exploited fraud etc) that overshadow the Carnera story are only concerned it devalues modern superheavyweights.

 

mcvey, The dreadnought division never got off the ground, it was mooted by two sportswriters and one member of the NY AC and quietly dropped

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You said Carnera was inexperienced against Super heavies when he fought novice Impelletiere,I posted the names of 21 of them that he had fought prior to facing him.

I wonder some one as ignorant on the subject feels compelled to make these silly and inaccurate statements?

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You're dead right you don't know everything,

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and we don't need to be informed of the fact!

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If you had a few more brain-cells you would be a half wit!

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I would hold the position that posters evaluate Carnera purely as a heavyweight boxer, not as a member of some exclusive super heavyweight club.Saying Carnera was a pretty poor champion , as far as talent goes does not reflect one iota on those heavyweights who share physiques that broadly compare with his. Carnera's abilities ,or lack of, have no relevance to other heavyweights of similar stature, the very premise is absurd!

 

You brought up the dreadnought division not me.You're just annoyed you were wrong and I was right.
Bottom line you made a statement that was incorrect,I corrected it with facts,ie the names of 21 other super heavyweights that Carnera had previously fought.

I've called you neither a dimwit , a nitwit , or a half wit .I said if you had more braincells you would be a half wit.
You haven't and so you aren't , i e, you are some way below that level.

You've got a fixation about me now,that' s okay, it gives you some focus and you certainly need it! I'm neither whining ,nor crying,denying, or hiding. I'm on here daily in plain sight.
Anyone is welcome to critique my posts and steer me right when I am wrong.
TBH .I think you would actually prefer to have some friendly rapport with me, why I can't think ,because I would not go near you with a ten foot pole.I sincerely and truly believe you are mentally unstable.

 

It's a response to your childish tantrum,which made me spit my wine out!

 

"mcvey, Yes because he wasn't worried about Carnera's power just his weight leaning all over him.

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Ever notice how I post primary sourced accounts to illustrate my points, and you just post the opinion of a fool,your own!

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Oh and I'm not your friend ,the last thing I need is some unbalanced loony palling up with me

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The underlined is a reply to Reznik concerning Loughran v Carnera nothing at all to do with Louis!
Sweet Jesus! Have you lost the plot big time or what!
And the source for that is Peter Heller's 1972 interview with Loughran at the New York Athletic Club. Crushed? You ought to be, by a truck!

 

Until your straighten out your knee jerk emotional responses I can't see you being a good poster.But I have hope.

 

mcvey, There are literally dozens of posters on this forum far better informed than I .

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Neither Deluded 1234 or yourself are two of them!
You always lose it and get personal it's a recurring habit of yours .

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Since that's your MO , I'll say this, I've tried to be congenial towards you and I appreciate the clips you post and have thanked you politely for them several times.
"I've tried to be congenial towards you", if you do say so yourself. Look I have told you before I respond in kind

Now hear this, your dissemination and interpretation of fights is abysmal ,and totally coloured by your fan boy preferences.

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You would not recognize objectivity if it jumped up and bit you on the nose!

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