Benny Leonard or Willie Pep who should be higher p4p?

I agree...We had this post before, but-
I ,who have seen Willie Pep in his prime, consider Pep the second best fighter I have ever seen..[Guess who is the FIRST]? His defensive movements were uncanny,so fast was his anticapatory reflexes which enabled Pep to seldom get hit solid...This style allowed Pep a long career...His only negative was that he never setin place long enough for solid punching. He did not hit hard at all,thus he had to develop his defensive style...Willie Pep's three best opponents were Sandy Saddler,[mixed results],Sammy Angott [lost dec], andhis best win I believe was over LW Willie Joyce,who was the 4th best lightweight of that tough era the 1940s...
Now we come to Benny Leonard who was lightweight champion from 1917-1923...He reigned supreme over the greatest array of lightweight HOFamers ever...Look at who Leonard had to fight to hold the title for so long-
Freddie Welsh
Johnny Dundee
Johnny Kilbane
Charley White best left hooking LW ever
Lew Tendler-great southpaw
Ritchie Mitchell
Rocky Kansas-LW champ ala Sammy Angott who Leonard flattened
Soldier Bartfield [held his own with Harry Greb,a few times]
Jack Britton [alltime WW Champ]
Ted Kid Lewis [alltime WW champ]
Benny Leonard was considered every bit as good a lightweight as Ray Robinson was as Welterweight Champ...Leonard was a great boxing stylist,
and a powerful two handed puncher with a hair trigger brain...Nat Fleischer and other great boxing figures who saw all the lightweights called Joe Gans and Benny Leonard the two best lightweights of alltime,
followed by Ike Williams and Roberto Duran I believe....
So, because of Leonards better two hand power punching, I give him a comfortable edge over Willie Pep...And Leonard beat much greater fighters
than Pep had to face, many all time greats....

 

Are you forgetting Manuel Ortiz?

 

SuzieQ I stand corrected...I left out the GREAT Bantamweight Champion Manuel Otiz,who Pep decisioned in 1944...Ortiz was as good a bantamweight Fighter as was Sandy Saddler , was a featherweight fighter
in a golden age of fighters, my era...
Joe Louis
Conn, Charles, Moore
Zale, Burley, Cerdan
Ray Robinson, Kid Gavilan,Tommy Bell, Billy Graham
Ike Williams, Beau Jack. Bob Montgomery, Willie Joyce
Willie Pep, Sandy Saddler, Sal Bartola, Lulu Constantino
And Manuel Ortiz, Harold Dade
Pretty fair bunch methinks.....