Benny Leonard where does he rate all time ?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Love those convincing arguments ..
     
  2. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK New Member Full Member

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    Who were the black fighters that Benny fought?
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its been discussed before in a 1978 issue of world boxing titled the only man who wouldve whipped duran. Until that other leonard came along
     
  4. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Hard to tell....on Boxrec there are quite a few of his opponents with no photos. Found only one bona fide African American but I suppose there were a couple more.

    Question to ask is did he duck any top black fighters? After all he wasn't champ of any particular organization.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    And where did he get off calling himself The Ghetto Wizard?!

    #appropriation
     
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  7. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    For a long time, I rated him number 2 at lightweight and Duran at 1. Now I'm pretty convinced Benny Leonard was the greatest lightweight ever. He didn't have the numbers that Duran racked up but he was just as dominant and fought the higher level of opposition. He could have reigned for longer at 135 but retired undefeated in his prime.

    I also think Leonard was the greatest fighter there had ever been up to the end of the 1920s - there were greater fighters who came after him but none greater before him.

    Overall, He's about number 7 on my p4p list with Duran slightly above him at 6 only because of his success at higher weights and Greb one spot below at 8.

    For what it's worth, here's my top 8 p4p (the top 3 fighters and the order are pretty much fixed, the position of the other 5 are a little more flexible):
    1. Robinson
    2. Armstrong
    3. Pep
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    4. Ali
    5. Louis
    6. Duran
    7. B. Leonard
    8. Greb