Bermane Stiverne vs Cristobal Arreola 2

:huh How exactly, i had it 117 111 for Stiverne.

 

Elite quality in terms of general ability. Whether you want to consider him an elite heavyweight or not is your own choice. Beating Arreola the way he did takes a really solid heavyweight, especially when size is taken into consideration. Vitali can beat many fighters with his jab all alone especially when he has the height and reach advantage he had against Adamek, this doesn't make them "joke" fighters like you're indirectly trying to label Adamek.

 

I would say he was elite LHW, he isnt anywhere near elite HW its not my choice or yours its just fact, beating Arreola and getting gift vs Steve C doesnt make you elite, Arreola win is good win, and its huge difference between solid HW and elite HW.
Again you post like you didnt read what i said, losing to Vitali is not problem not getting past his jab isnt problem, but being hurt by every punch is, Vitali was throwing with intent to carry him as long as he can, rangefinder jab almost KOd Adamek and Vitali is more of accumulation puncher than one punch KO artist, Adamek isnt natural HW and cant take HW power.

 

When is this fight again tonight?

 

The Cunningham fight was a 50/50 fight which was close so I wouldn't really consider that a "gift". A gift is something like Pacquiao vs Bradley I. If he can't take a heavyweight's punch he would have been knocked out by Arreola and stopped early against Vitali. No offense but saying he can't take a punch as a heavyweight is just plain ignorance, he was in there fighting his ass off against Vitali till he literally had nothing left from the punches he had to absorb.

 

It's on the 10th of May.

 

He was fighting his ass off vs Vitsali no doubt about his heart, but Vitali literally had to carry him he could have ended it when ever he felt like it, Arreola doesnt have the skill if he had it he would KO Adamek, and thats exactly what i try to say Arreola isnt to skilled, and Stiverne UDs him again.
Adamek vs Cunnigham 50/50 :rofl yeah sure http://fightscorecollector.blogspot.com/2012_12_01_archive.html

Below are all the scores i collected, 98 in total.

Press Score Total - (23), Cunningham (20), Adamek (1), Draw (2)

Fans Score Total - (75), Cunningham (65), Adamek (8), Draw (2)


TOTAL - (98 ), CUNNINGHAM (85), ADAMEK (9), DRAW (4)

GIFT:deal

 

It takes skill to have power? , he still landed big bombs on Adamek and Adamek was still there punching back. If he didn't have a solid chin he would have been knocked out early.

 

Actually yes skill/technique is important for delivering power punches but i see you dont know that which is sad.

 

You're saying his left is no where near Joe's
Stivernes is a big man that probably KO's 205 lb cruiserweight Joe
I think he KO's Foreman in the later rounds
This guy can punch
Boxers today are bigger and stronger and pack more of a punch.

 

Cool cool shocked that hbo didnt pick this up.
They are sliping.

 

Stiverne really is a cruiserweight he's packing 50lbs of hair.

 

taco tits wins the rematch

 

Fatboy had no answers to Stiverne the first time around and made zero adjustments. Stiverne will pop him with the jab and land enough hard shots to discourage Areola again, but Stiverne will stop him this time around

 

Stiverne looked really impressive in the first fight. Everyone thought he was a one dimensional slugger, but he shocked most by showing he can box. He keeps it up I think him and Jennings may be the next great heavyweight fight. Arreola has heart and a talented slugger, but needs or more like NEEDED to have raised his level awhile back now. Supposed to get better since his loss to Vitali, but improved very little, tho did lose weight, but cmon man, supposed to be in tip top shape at this level all the time. Stiverne is just on another level.