Bermane Stiverne vs David Haye

HE AINT FOUGHT IN ALMOST 3 YEARS. atsch

and he werent even the 2nd best then.

imagine the haye who beat chisora, Up against a superior skilled puncher in povetkin or stiverne. He would get rinsed.

 

Haye will dispose both Pillsbury dough boy (Povetkins) and Stiverne quicker than he did Chisora.

 

Why? When they are better fighters. You never have a decent arguement. Povetkin has a better resume.

 

I'm assessing this as Haye at his best vs Stiverne only because Haye isnt active

Dont know how I feel about Stiverne: in reality all he has is come from behind Austin and 2X over Arreola, the second time being much tougher though he got the KO that eluded him the first time

He looks to be a measured and careful fighter who counters with fast hands though he is kinda fat, sort of reminds me of Eddie Chambers with power. Sharp fighter who can be out worked by busier fighters but his accurate and powerful shots can turn the tide, example Austin and Arreola 2

I spent a lot of time on this forum arguing with Haye fans that he isnt good at heavyweight and he is all talk and I'll say he went 12 rounds with Wlad in a performance that was lackluster but he also kept Wlad extremely uncomfortable despite losing every round. His KO of Chisora proves me wrong in that case, he did whack a top heavyweight with ease and better than Vitali and Fury did

To me I cant say he is one dimensional but I feel like he is kind of one handed, good but not great jab and his right hand is his main danger. Stiverne probably can be defensively sound enough to shut down that one punch. Stiverne is troubled by busy guys who throw plenty of punches, Haye does not. Haye though moves well and is hard to catch but i doubt Stiverne chases him stupidly and gets run into a shot

I can see a pose fest with occasional bombs in a 12 round snoozer for Stiverne

 

Better fighters and better resume? Haye is a two division champion and former undisputed cruiserweight champion. Because someone disagrees with you does not mean their argument is somehow inferior to yours.


Stiverne call to fame is Chris freaking Areola and Plillsburry dough boys record is composed of past prime heavyweights. This is the same Povetkins that lost to Marco Huck. Forget record, Stylistically Povetkin is nothing more than target practice for Haye.

 

Haye got beaten up by a 40 year old cat Thompson. Because he threw too much :rofl he never did it again. No gas tank, no chin.

You talk about past prime heavyweights hahahhahahahah. Barret and ruiz? You wot mate.

Chambers, takam, charr. Nice wins
Valuev, chisora. Nice wins

 

No chin? He was stopped ones and the stoppage was due to exhaustion more than him having a bad chin.
Nice of you to omit Ruiz.
Cherr. Are you serious?atsch

 

By a 40year old, and david Hayes heavyweight run is too overated. I respect he was a top 5 cruiserweight, but he never did have a dog fight. Chisora gave him some troubles and pressure, and everyone knows dellboy can't knock skin of a rice pudding. If haye were fighting povetkin and stiverne, he would get stopped.

 

Ancient ruiz and u talk about past prime heavyweights, that's why you have never had a decent debate on this site, attaboi.

 

As far as I know I've been bitsch slapping you in every debate on this site. Dude you a lightweight.

 

Struggle. He was the first to do what 6,7 250+lbs heavyweights couldn't do. That is knock out Chisora.
Forget what the Judges say, Ruiz had just finished schooling Sugar Niko going into the Haye fight.

 

Haha you will never I repeat never beat me in a boxing debate. You just haven't got the knowledge. Mr casual. You own yourself most of the time I just give ya a bit if encouragement.

 

Vitali's power was definitely overated towards the end. Furys power was never rated. Haye has power, but haye will get battered against a real puncher with skill. Chisora is a powerless plodder. Povetkin and stiverne have decent boxing skills and certainly povetkin has great combo's. All enough to beat haye.

 

Because you have fellow lightweight posters like aquamarine and superhans thumbing you up you think you're boxing version of a young King Solomon.