Bermane Stiverne vs Derrick Rossy Nov 14th - who wins

Scott has a glass jaw for sure and he was probably hurt to a degree but I think It's most likely he just quit.

 

Well Wilder was the only one to knock him out, I don't count Chisora, that was an awful stoppage.

 

Well he went down with light shots against Chisora and Thompson too, that's why him quitting against Wilder is a more logical scenario than a dive for me.

 

Myth. Arreola has never beaten anyone. He is a fat guy with little skill. They matched Stiverne with Arreola a second time because it was someone he could beat.

With hindsight it was obvious that it was another dive, although performed better.

 

Arreola is not an ATG by any means, but he is not a 'fat guy with little skill'. You are just downplaying him because he lost to a Wilder opponent.

Arreola's only other losses besides Stiverne came against Vitali Klistchko, and a very close decision to Adamek. The fighters he has beaten are no worse than those on the resume of Fury, Wach, Takam, and many other guys that are being hailed as great fighters. Mainly because they were opponents of guys like Fury or Povetkin instead of Wilder opponents.

 

Foolish.

Who has SPECIFICALLY has Arreola beaten that is suppossedly as good as as Cunningham, Chisora, and Thompson?


As for Wach, yeah, he sucks too. Doesn't mean that Arreola and Stiverne suck less.

 

I don't understand this board's love for Cunningham other than flooring Fury. He's not even a true heavyweight and has lost seven fights. Thompson was a second tier fighter even in his prime, and he's basically over the hill now. Chisora is solid, but again he's another guy whose better known for who he has lost to than who he has beaten. His best win was a shady stoppage over Scott.

But you can't call a guy fat with little skills when he has only lost to Stiverne, Vitali, and Adamek, and mostly wrecked everyone else he has fought.

 

Repeat: who has Arreola beaten that is on thier level?

No foolery here. Who are you claiming?

Because I will be blunt that Arreola is a club figher and Stiverne not much better.

Waiting.

 

Now you are just getting ridiculous. No club fighter goes ten rounds with Vitali Klitschko or fights a close decision with Adamek.

 

cant wait to see his comeback!

stivern claims his conditioning his better now...before the wilder fight he was 21% body fat at 238 pound,now hes 17% at 251

 

How can this fight not be televised... Any idea when it starts and where we can find an update?

 

Adamek is a cruiser and Vitali was just an old pensioner from Kiev, Arreola hasn't won a round against him.

 

It's on Showtime :huh

 

They are apparently not showing this fight on Showtime.

 

Hmm you might be right, I remember reading something along these lines on Dan Rafael's chat yesterday.