Bernard and Pacquiao are not top 10 atgs

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    great video.

    I don't think anyone who has taken a keen interest in the history of boxing will put Hopkins or Pacquiao in their top10, but I do see Pacquiao as being within sight. Still behind other guys as well like Moore and SRL for example, but really close.
     
    PH|LLA, May 22, 2011
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Fitz
    Langford
    Louis
    Greb
    Robinson
    Armstrong
    Ali
    Pep
    Charles
    Duran

    That's mine. If all active boxers retired tomorrow only holyfield, hopkins and pac would make my top 25.
     
    lufcrazy, May 22, 2011
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  3. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    word son, although i'd change that list up a bit personally
     
    Swarmer, May 22, 2011
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  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    post of the day:deal
     
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  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    it's not my list. I'd change some things as well, but I like it because he gave legit reasons for each spot
     
    bballchump11, Jun 15, 2011
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  6. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good interesting facts... I respect the old school fighters but I just feel they will have not accomplish what they did in their era the same way if the began their careers in the 80's. Just my opinion:good
     
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  7. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    One thing is certain.

    Pac is at least 20 places above Gayweather in any ranking.

    If Pac is top 99, Gayweather would be top 120.
     
    pejevan, Jun 15, 2011
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  8. badassQatari

    badassQatari Active Member Full Member

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    i know its not fashionable to be a pac fan, but the guy is easily top ten. 4 lineals and wins in a span of ten divs. duran could only go up to 160, his 9th
     
    badassQatari, Jun 15, 2011
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  9. ThereIsOnlyOne

    ThereIsOnlyOne Guest

    I think Pacquiao has been blown up so much recently that it has had a polar effect and he is under-rated. He may not be top ten but he is certainly worth a shout at an all time great title. I guess time will tell really.
     
    ThereIsOnlyOne, Jun 15, 2011
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  10. Armstrong!

    Armstrong! Active Member Full Member

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    I'm sorry but Pacquiao is not easily top ten. You can't shove out Ali, Fitzsimmons, Langford, Robinson, ARMSTRONG, Louis, Charles, Greb, Gans, etc. For Pacquiao.
     
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  11. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    WOW.:patsch Look at the video in the first post and read what it has to say. It's not about Pacquiao not being great, but more about those fighter being on another level.
     
    bballchump11, Jun 15, 2011
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  12. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is it that people don't get that in Comparing old with new they would both train under the same conditions? Pulling one back in time or the other forward to the modern era.
     
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  13. badassQatari

    badassQatari Active Member Full Member

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    you mentioned only nine.:deal im sorry but you cant shove out pac either. 4 lineals in a span of ten divisions. any other fighter in your list can boast of that?
     
    badassQatari, Jun 15, 2011
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  14. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    those fighters fought in a time when 2 of the lineal titles that Pacquiao won didn't even exists
     
    bballchump11, Jun 15, 2011
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  15. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    :rofl

    lol, with this thought, im not too fond with these pseudo-ultimatums, when in reality, there's very little to compare/too many values to consider, when doing these ALL TIME GREATS stuff.

    Rather let the fodder squabble about who is subjectively better than who, wholly based on their lousy agendas and speculative evaulating of the fighters of completely different eras, weight classes, and level of competition
     
    Skilletscuz, Jun 15, 2011
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