Bernard Dunne on Setanta

Ah it's cool man , you called it right and when you call things right you're allowed to do that .

I've explained my feelings in the main thread , but hey **** happens .

 

Explain to me how the 86 seconds went down???

 

146 actually , bell rings both fighters come forward(Dunne more eagerly than Martinez) Dunne lands a jab and then 2 rights , Martinez isn't fazed at all . Dunne moving a bit while landing a few glancing blows(nothing too clean) as Martinez comes forward throwing meaningfull hooks , catches Dunne with a right hook and then a left and down Dunne goes .

Dunne thought he had slipped(shows he was well and truly hurt because that was no slip) , Martinez comes in and Dunne meets him both winging shots away , Dunne lands a few but has no effect on Martinez and is then caught again(backing up with his hands down , the same way he was caught for the first knock down) and goes down .

Dunne gets up looking in disbelief again protesting a slip(no chance he just didn't know what was happening) , Martinez comes forward and backs Dunne to the ropes , both fighters wing hooks again . Dunne lands 2 good ones but to no effect again , Martinez lands 3 on Dunne and he goes down again and this time much more heavily than before(referee waves off without a count) . He probably would have gotten up but wouldn't have been okay to continue .

Dunne is brought back to his corner and sits on his stool , you can see the wtf look on his face .

Martinez is very alike a mini-Tyson in style , that crounching stance , nice and compact and likes to throw those vicious hooks . He was just all wrong for Dunne , the perfect fighter to beat him .

 

Ach, I was taking a break from ESB to recharge the batteries as they say, but when I watched the Dunne defeat tonight first person I thought of was your good self Bigears(funny how the forums make you relate certain fighters to certain posters)

Your boy just got caught cold in the first round, it happens. I wouldnt read too much into the defeat to be honest, of course the doom mongers will forever bring this defeat up from now on, saying "Dunne will never be anything blah blah cos the Spaniard KOd him in a round" & all that bull****. & thats what it is, bull****.

If anything, this can be the making of Dunne as a fighter, much like Gomez made Arthur the fighter he is today. As pat Clinton said, Dunne left his gloves low, a bad habit that was asking for trouble, & trouble he found. The european scene is a minefield that I think most fighters from this region of the world should avoid, its a high risk minimum reward kind of title IMO, but thats for another argument.

Its not the defeat, but how Dunne comes back from it I will be looking out for. Trust me Bigears my good man, this defeat could be the making of Dunne if he learns from it. Theres not much wrong with Dunne as a fighter, hes got the tools & the fanbase to go a long way in the sport. If he can just iron out the low guard & the posing, he will do just fine. & I hope that fight will be the wake up call that he has to take every opponent seriously, cos I think the lad was caught up in his own hype, which can happen to any man, like a certain Alex Arthur for instance when he lost to Gomez.

Sorry to keep making the comparison, but I feel Dunne is very talented like Arthur, & if he reacts to a crushing defeat like Arthur did, hes still got a great career in front of him.

So keep the chin up Bigears, its a setback but not the end for Dunne.

 

So are you back Dunky? Or what?

;O)

 

Thanks for that Dunky , I'm not totally convinced Dunne will be able to comeback so strong(he doesn't have the chin or power of Arthur) but I will support him to the last .

The European route is the only route for Irish fighters that don't go to America , without it we've nothing . The Irish title isn't prestigious enough and we've no equivalent to the commonwealth title .
Irish fighters won't move up World rankings fighting for no title(in Ireland) , no matter who they are fighting .

 

You know me, a right moody ******* One day im all sugar, next im all **** Here today, gone tomorrow & all that nonsense. Your just asking anyway cos you want me here to take my medicine if Hatton beats mayweather, I know how you englanders roll

 

You're a good bloke...You certainly know your boxing. This forum is better off with you in it.

Fancy a trip to Vegas....;O)

 

Bigears, dont thank me. I didnt make that post just to make you feel better cos I like you, Im not into all that biased stand up for the guys you like ****! Wether I like a poster or not, I will always be honest with my opinions on boxing. You know me

Its an honest opinion that I think your boy Bernard Dunne isnt finished yet. Put it this way, I have a friend who kicks ass boxing knowledge wise, he blows most people out of the water. & he rates Bernard Dunne. So trust me fella, dont give up on him yet.

 

I didn't say you were Dunky , I'm just saying thank you because you're post happened to cheer me up a bit(and it did so because I know you would only do so being honest)............I wouldn't expect you to stand up for a fighter of mine for no reason .

 

Aye, me & a planeful of Hatton nuthuggers on a flight to Vegas, I think I would need to bring my parachute with me when you ****ers toss me out of the plane at 30,000 feet

& as for me knowing my boxing? I have to just to stay afloat with you lot! Thats what keeps me coming back to brit ESB, cos talking to everyone here is as much a learning experience as it is an enjoyable one, & I aint kidding.

 

Thought Dunne keeping his hands low would cost him. His guard Is wide open too as he moves around on his feet.

 

Damn that was embarrassing for Dunne. I'm still in shock at how badly he was beaten. It was probably Martinez's easiest fight to date.

Madly enough though, with the way boxing is, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dunne get a shot at one of the titles soon enough. The martinez kid did look sensational though.

 

Dunne didn't have a bead of sweat on his body as he came out for round one.... He got caught cold and it was his own fault. He was clearly over confident and you could see in the opening ten seconds as he jigged around with his chin up in the air he wasn't correctly warmed up. A classic case of been caught cold just like Eamonn Loughran against Jose Luis Lopez a few years ago.

 

i dont think he got caught cold. hey, he was faced with a young puncher who had taken down alot of people early!!
if that proposition doesnt "warm him up", then nothing will.

personally, i think he was ready, knowing fully well what martinez was gonna bring (as if there could be any surprises...). but in the end in a boxing ring you are gonna get hit. you cant avoid all punches.

and if you have an iffy chin, your gonna get found out sooner or later.

in dunnes case, now we know.