Bernard Hopkins 25 Middleweight title fights BROKEN down

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by iceman71, Dec 25, 2009.


  1. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always said it, Hopkins' MW reign is overrated.

    Considering the way he fights (which he throws a lead right and hold, for the full 12 rounds), no way he is the best MW ever.
     
  2. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    these title reigns are why it baffles me that mayweather gets ****....i like BHOP but that is a joke...i knew that before this thread...PBF has beaten far better opposition....hopkins has 2 GREAT win...pavlik and Tito..tarver was a good win but he was an average champ
     
  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I love how people are attacking your use of boxrec. Wouldn't it be irresponsible to try and make a trustworthy, comprehensive list like you made just from memory?
     
  4. magnificentdave

    magnificentdave Constant Reminder Full Member

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    Iceman71, I'd like to point out that every fighter that you claim was at the end of their career when they fought Hopkins only arrived at the end of their career AFTER they were dominated by Hopkins-- hence Hopkins' claim that he ruins fighters.
     
  5. magnificentdave

    magnificentdave Constant Reminder Full Member

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    And to the people dissing Hopkins' reign at middleweight-- who did he supposedly duck? He fought everyone that middleweight division had to offer and he was unbeatable. Then when people realized the middleweight division had nothing to offer he fought the greatest fighters of junior middleweight and beat them too.

    Then he beat the best that the light heavy had to offer.
     
  6. pugilist64

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    You would have thought that the IBF and WBC could have come up with better opponents that.
     
  7. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    name some Middleweights he could have fought?

    Quincy Taylor, Otis Grant, Hacine Cherifi, Rodney Jones, Sturm, Sylvester???????
     
  8. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    wreaks of grandmother ****
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    He did dominate Mercado, you clearly never watched those fights because Hopkins won every round minus the 2 flash KDs of the first fight and deserved a decision. He probably ruined Mercado in the rematch, gave him a beating twice

    You clearly havent seen most of these men box and dont like Hopkins, your analysis is full of bias and has little knowledge outside of boxrec research
     
  10. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rivers blows
     
  11. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They were not flash knockdowns, Hopkins was hurt in both of them. I also thought Hopkins won the first fight, I had 114-112 for him. But Mercado won at least 4 rounds and a draw is an acceptable score.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    No way Mercado won 4rounds, 3 tops and 2 of them only due to KDs, noway is a draw acceptable

    He was down hard but he won the round outside of those KDs and came back strong after each KD
     
  13. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's no point arguing that Hopkins dominated a strong division. He didn't. The achievement lies in having the mental and physical discipline to make that many consecutive defenses without failing to make weight, or having an off night. It's professional prize fighting, whatever that "chump's" record is, he lands that perfect punch and you're back at square one.

    There are plenty of crappy divisions in boxing every decade. If it was "easy" to defend a major belt twenty times, we would see it happen more often. It isn't.

    When you get right down to it, there aren't too many divisions over the last decade that have been stacked the way they were in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s. Featherweight and welterweight have been the two major exceptions.
     
  14. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Bhops a definite top 10 atg middleweight. every great fighter has had their share of tomato cans, but i do think his greatest victories were over 160. pavlik was still undefeated and the favorite to win as was tarver, who was on a hotstreak at the time and done to jones what no one had before. calzaghe got the toughest fight of his life and never gave hopkins the rematch and many thought hopkins won that fight.

    hopkins a tall middleweight and defensive minded has never been stopped. neither has hagler, but hagler was known for his chin. hagler was a small middleweight at 5'8'' to hopkins 6'1''. i don't think bhops would of dared go toe to toe with hagler and would of had his best chance from a distance, but i doubt it. i would of liked calzaghes chances with hagler, but not monzon. even the great bhops admitted he'd probably beat hagler or robinson at 160, but not monzon.
     
  15. DoubleM

    DoubleM Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Can someone explain why Hopkins gets tons of credit for beating Pavlik when he pretty much did the same thing Maywather did and let him move up 10 lbs?