'Bernard Hopkins aint old school, he an old fool' - James Toney

dude, prime Toney was a magnificent boxer in the pocket. you need to watch his early stuff.

 

H2H, prime for prime, at MW, Toney wins this. No doubt.
Toney was the better fighter - while Hopkins is the greater fighter. There's a difference there.
Toney is an underachiver while Hopkins is an overachiver.

 

James Toneyis one of the most talented fighters i've ever seen, but i think Bernard takes this

 

Obviously Toney is the more conventional old-school fighter. Hopkins is a very modern fighter IMO, very intelligent, scientific, systematic, disciplined, astute, he learned and developed over time into a cerebral athlete. Whereas James Toney was a guy in the tradition of guys like Jersey Joe Walcott. Toney developed his skills at a much younger age, and was slipping and rolling from relatively early in his career. Because Toney learned these skills earlier, he has been doing them for a long time intuitively. If the two ever fought, I'm not saying James beats Bernard with ease, not at all, but James would make B-Hop look a bit mechanical by comparison, in a way that we haven't seen Bernard look in the ring.

 

Toney is above Hopkins no question whatsoever about it, in terms of both skill and resume.

Nunn, McCallum x3, Reggie, Littles, Prince Charles, DeWitt, Thornton, Sosa, Jirov, stopped Holyfield, and the perfect per-****in-formance against Iran.

 

Benn was a completely different fighter against Amparo, Quinones, Sanderline, DeWitt and Iran - jabbing, placing rights, using his feet more and rolling with punches (he just stood still stiff when hit against Logan and Watson !!). His hooks were more compact. But he did come out at a frantic pace against Eubank for three rounds.

 

I chose Toney if it was 'prime for prime' or whatever

 

Toney was proper old school man

 

Do not know if this is significant.

Toney always wanted to fight Hopkins whereas Hopkins wanted no part of Toney. Most notably, Hopkins out in 2003 for lots of money.

 

It's a shame that these 2 never fought. I can't see why this couldn't still happen at a catch weight or around Cruiserweight? Im sure Toney can cut out the burgers for a few weeks.....Saying that, its 10 years too late....