Bernard Hopkins and steroids

Serious question Dealt.

Instead of using PEDs, Barry Bonds wears a power bracelet that he is convinced works. Do you think he still hits 73 home runs?

 

You would have to be the biggest ****ing idiot I've come across on this site.

All that first link says is "there is no evidence that anyone performed good experiments to check if EPO would actually improve performance in elite cyclists". That's it. Why don't you spend less time on ESB pretending to know about the subject and go do a doctoral thesis on it?

And as for the second link, that was a waste of time as they themselves say that "more research was needed to confirm these conclusions, and the study was limited by the fact that the dosages examined may not reflect what happens in real life".

So Lance Armstrong's 7 wins was just a giant placebo? As was Barry Bond's effort?

You're the imbecile who also claimed that all calories are equal when it comes to weight loss and that the only way to lose weight was ingest less calories than you expend. That comment, along with your "PEDs have a negligible effect on boxers' performance", demonstrate that you know absolutely **** all about diet and exercise.

 

When...

Enzo Maccarinelli
Frans Botha
Mariusz Wach
Antonio Tarver
Larry Olubamiwo
Terry Dunstan
Michael Banbula
Tony Dodson
Ali Adams
Ryan Barrett
Dillian Whyte
Vitali Klitschko
James Toney
Erik Morales
Orlando Salido
Fernando Vargas
Shane Mosley
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Tommy Morrison
Lamont Peterson
&
Andre Berto

Start recording wins over boxers that are ranked in the top 5 in their respective division(s) while at the age 48... Then MAYBE I'll start to give at least a quarter of a **** about whether or not B-Hop is on "that ****"... until then...

Not even one single iota of a **** will be given on my part. :smoke

 

Out****ingstanding post!

One of the best and most commonsensical that i've seen on the subject.

There's a blind gullibility and just outright ignorance among the majority of boxing/sports fans when it comes to anabolic steroids, which is largely a product of media & "pop culture" brainwashing & demonization. Critical thought on the subject of anabolic steroids doesn't apply cuz ESPN sez STEROIDS B EVEIL!!!!

 

What people don`t get is how amazing Hopkins is at getting the fight to go his way. Using his ring savvy, intimidation and intellect. He gets the opponent to significantly decrease their punch output. With his jab, subtle feints and superb footwork, they seem to be less agressive in pursuing him and letting their hands go. Once he gets their punch out decreased, he then calmly and cooly picks them apart. Hopkins doesn`t expose himself either. He too doesn`t throw a ton of punches, but he is incredibly accurate with his shots. Hitting Cloud with a 41% connect ratio. He gets into these fighters heads and they aletr their game plans, and Hopkins always sticks to his. It didn`t work with Dawson because Dawson stayed buys enough and didn`t by into Hopkins style and tactics. It`s his ability to slow down the work rate of the fight that is severly underated adn is the key to how effective he still is, not steroids ... I`d like to point out that when Dawson beat him, steroids wasn`t such a hot topic. I also hate to start throwing the `S ` word around without actual confirmation ... If you take a look at Hopkins history, busy fighters with a steady jab, have given him some trouble over the years even rpime Hopkins. Jones, Taylor, Calzaghe and Dawson.

 

So where is the scientific evidence? There's been studies so far showing there is no advantage, there is always more research needed in any area of science. So Armstrong's defining factor in his victories were the unproven drugs that everybody else was also taking? So you think anecdotes that don't take any of the thousands of variables into account are evidence that they work? Do you believe in an athletes luck charm necklace? That God allowed him to win?
If you want to take anecdotes from people who are nowhere near qualified to talk on the matter over what scientific research has shown so far then I don't know what can help you.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-energy-balance-equation.html

Read that and **** off :good

 

He'd be a perfectly legitimate case for TRT, so wouldn't be surprised if he was on that.

 

I don't know why people on this forum says Bernard Hopkins is slow.I watched fight 2 times and he is very fast and more important with great reflexes.I don't know are this people ever try boxing but try to move like that 12 rounds.He is in shape of 30 year old prime athlete in terms of speed,power,reflexes and stamina.And my opinion is that he is not on steroids.Athletes on steroids don't last that long.He has strong mind and believe in yourself and that is more important than steroids.

 

Steroids? I dunno. Some sort of performance enhancer? Probably. I'm cynical like that. Surely he's doing testosterone replacement therapy, no?

 

I completely disagree.

B Hop has some of the best punching mechanics in the sport. If his punches didn't sting, his opponents would be all over him. He knocked Cloud's head back multiple times.

And his athleticism is high, but his reflexes have slowed.

 

Pro bodybuilders can get that big naturally.

Didn't you know that?

LOL

 

They sting because of his placement and timing, and still when was the last time he hurt anybody? He has very little power these days.

 

As I've already mentioned there's evidence for these things to help build muscle and the quantities bodybuilders ingest wouldn't pass an ethics board for a study. I know there are idiots who still equate muscle with sports performance but what can I say?

 

Hopkins has good handspeed and has respectable power. That's nothing new.

He's always had that capability.

What's noticable is his pace has continued to slow. That's what happens when you get older, you're pace slows as your conditioning is not what it was when you were younger.

He's clearly not the same as he used to be, but things like handspeed are always going to be there, even in his old age.

The combinations are what begin to go, because you just don't have the stamina to pull them off anymore.

The reflexes begin to wane as well, and that's clearly evident as Hopkins has been hit more often in recent fights than in the past.

He's incredibly disciplined. This is not Floyd Mayweather, eating junk food or Manny Pacquaio back in the day, getting drunk and gambling.

Hopkins treats his body like a temple and he doesn't duck anyone.

 

He doesn't look to be on steroids to me, his physical appearance would be totally different if he was.