Bernard Hopkins confirms that Loma was robbed in the Haney fight

I had it Loma 10-2

 

Loma clearly won. Anyone who knows anything about boxing has said so.

 

Robbed of a historical achievement.

 

Yep clear as day robbery.

I don't get how his handlers think he is marketable. Incredibly boring style, makes Mayweather look like Muhammad Ali in terms of entertainment. Not only is he incredibly boring but he's a weight bully who gets rocked by smaller dudes - clearly not as skilled as he's made out to be

 

I think it's you who don't know what you're talking abut - Loma won rounds 2, 6 and rounds 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and thus the fight. At best you can give Teo 7 and it's a draw. The most contentious rounds were 2 and 6 - many thought Teo won these because of the ridiculous biased commentary. In these two rounds, and I've gone through this in depth, Loma outlanded Teo with the cleaner shots. Most of the shots Teo supposedly land, did in fact not. Loma objectively landed more clean shots in these rounds.

For the first 6 rounds Loma was low volume...however, Teo wasn't doing jack**** either. He was following Loma around the ring punching arms and elbows if he could get to him - however, this was far and in between as he couldn't cut the ring off effectively to actually land punches.

 

Lomachenko threw a grand total of 12 punches in 2nd round, and 13 punches in the 6th round.

I'm sorry you don't win a fight with numbers like those, Lomachenko was far too passive and inactive in the first half of the fight left it too late and legitimately lost the fight end of.

I like Lomachenko but I'm sorry I don't see any argument for him beating Lopez, when the fight got semi close Lopez pulled it out with a dominant 12th round to seal the deal as I said too little too late from Loma.

I do think he beat Haney though 7-5

 

I’ve done a count by count of punches landed in rounds 2 and 6. Loma objectively lands the cleaner shots in those rounds.

As Loma should be criticised for throwing barely anything, Lopez should be criticised for following Loma around, failing to cut the ring off and land clean shots which is exactly what happened in those rounds

 

I'm not giving someone a round for throwing 12 and 13 punches.

Lopez in comparison threw 37 and 46 punches in those rounds, which isn't a high workrate either but still triple the amount of Lomachenko who was averaging 4 punches thrown a minute which is an abysmal output.

Lomachenko simply didn't do enough and left it too late.

 

Having Loma beating Teo is a complete joke.

 

Apart from no it's not - it's what the result should have been. There's a consensus that Loma won rounds 7 (some debate this one), 8, 9, 10, 11. He also won rounds 2 and 6. That is 7 rounds.

See below rounds 2 and 6. Loma objectively lands the cleaner punches = boxing is ultimately about landed punches. Effective aggression/ring generalship means nothing if you are getting outlanded.

The video below is generous to Lopez for round 2. That shot the video counts that Lopez "lands" is on the gloves, and the body shot Loma leaned away from. On the other hand, Loma landed 3-4 clean full impact headshots. Saying Loma beating Teo is a joke means one thing only - you didn't watch the fight closely enough, which is fair enough, can be easily done.

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Loma outlanded Lopez . You don't win rounds by throwing and not landing. Otherwise Maidana won 12-0 against Mayweather.

Boxing is ultimately about landing clean punches. Which is what Loma did more of in rounds 2 and 6. You can talk about effective aggression - Lopez wasn't effectively aggressive as he couldn't cut off the ring and got outland. You can talk about defence, Loma landed more shots and evaded more shots. You can talk about ring general - does the ring general get outlanded and is unable to enforce his will. The only argument for Lopez here is that he was following Loma around - and that was purely due to the size of Lopez in there. Massive weight bully - we are just going to score the fight in favour of a weight bully because he's huge and punches harder?

 

I had Haney winning just. Loma got dominated to the body.

 

I thought Loma won also but I hate that he let Haney win the last round, if he didn’t it wouldn’t even been a question mark. Still think Loma won but without the last round Haney fans would not have any argument.

 

Lomachenko averaged 5 punches landed a round in the first 6 rounds, and the most punches he threw in a single round throughout first 6 rounds was 13.

You ain't winning fights with that abysmal output end of you can spin any narrative you want it doesn't matter. Loma didn't do enough in the 1st half of the fight and left it too late it's as simple as that.

Name another example of a fight where a fighter had the same output as Lomachenko for 6 rounds and won a decision in a championship fight.