Bernard Hopkins confirms that Loma was robbed in the Haney fight

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  1. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Dude? seriously? you are literally not just moving the goal posts you're hiding them.

    we are talking about round 2 and 6. You're speaking generically. Loma won 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. That's 5 rounds and most agree on this.

    He also won rounds 2 and 6, as I have explained, he objectively landed more cleaner shots in these rounds than Teo did. Crawford and Ward scored round 2 and 6 to Loma for a reason. Many were deluded by the commentary on these rounds of Timothy Bradley orgasming every time Lopez threw a punch...

    5 rounds + 2 rounds.....is guess what...
     
  2. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I think anyone with a pair of eyes can see that.. wasn't even close.. standard tho.. EEs getting shafted..
     
  3. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Beat Haney. Every man & his dog agrees with that. Don't really give a s*** about the Lopez loss .. Lopez is the size of fkin Canelo
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He lost to Teo, no doubt about that. The salido fight could have gone either way. I cannot stand Loma's arrogant ass. He is such a fake humble nice guy and is an egomaniac. But Haney did not win that fight. Could have scored it a draw, but no way Haney won 7 rounds.
     
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  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Do me a favor, post your real time score as the fight was happening. Like I said, reading ESB posters in real time, I cannot recall anyone giving Loma the fight. Grant it, I did not read every post. But it seems that the robbery argument did not sprout legs until a few days later and the fight was rewatched in slow motion.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not moving any goalposts...... I've said the exact samething in every post.

    Lomachenko averaged 5 punches landed a round for half the fight......

    His highest amount of thrown punches in a single round throughout 6 rounds was 13......

    And I've asked you multiple times to give me another example of fighter having such a low output for half the fight, and actually won a decision in a championship fight.

    You don't win fights my guy when you land less than 6 punches on average per round for half the fight.

    The fact you're the only arguing this point speaks volumes.

    Just let it go he lost to Lopez legitimately end of no controversy, I like Lomachenko but come on.....theres no way he beat Lopez.
     
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  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    No he’s not
     
  8. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree, weird that he decides to take the last round off in a close fights, makes no sense??
     
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  9. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whether Lomachenko won the 12th or not against Haney is irrelevant. The kid won 7 of the 12 rounds and deserved the decision.

    Was it the most egregious "robbery" in the history of the sport? No, of course not. But the wrong guy got the nod that night and most objective fans acknowledge as much.
     
  10. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had this fight on again & even though Loma did great work in moments there were many spaces throughout the minutes in the ring where he wasn't very active at all whereas Haney continued to be & i'm sure that only highlighted the judges perception & their further intent to score it for Devin,

    I also think Haney didn't get enough credit for his activity & landing many jabs even without him being failing to really hurt or buzz Loma at any point in the fight,

    A draw would have strongly forced both of them to rematch straight after & had Loma just gotten more active throughout each round that would have helped him huge.
     
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  11. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was going to say the same thing, it's one big takeaway from Loma, i could understand in the Teo fight he was injured & was weary of his power but i expected him to be different in the Haney fight since he would have known everything's against him.
     
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  12. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    His corner is at fault also for not pressuring him to finish strong

    Wonder what advise he was getting in the corner going into 12th for both fights? If they didn't press him, they were doing a poor job

    I know he isn't a KO artist but they should at least tell him to finish strong & try to put the other guy down at least if not a KO. He should know that he is fighting in US where the sanctioning bodies somehow always manage to have 3 US judges (unlike say in Japan where the judges & ref they appoint are neutral) including known morons like Moretti. It is what it is unless overnight he can turn Ukraine into an economic superpower like Japan & have most of his fights over there, same with all these other Eastern European fighters fighting in US
     
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  13. Rob_V

    Rob_V New Member banned Full Member

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    Lomacheko had devins head spinning and whipping side ways his older feet had him peeking im surprised how devin wasn't able to defend him very well if at all, it was embarrassing.
     
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  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    When did I say Haney beat Loma Tin? Scored it for Loma in the rbr, it was def closer than people made it out to be tho. 7-5 or 8-4 loma.
     
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  15. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The idea that Loma gave away the 12th is a tired trope.

    However one scored that round--and I personally gave the round to Haney, though it was scarcely decisive---Haney did not win it due to a lack of activity or aggression on Loma's part.

    Loma backed Haney up often in Rd 12, and according to the punch stats, out-threw Haney by like 20 punches. Now, I hardly consider Compubox infallible, but it does provide a raw, quantitative estimate of activity and effective punching. Either way, Haney was not demonstrably more aggressive or active in that round.

    In his 3 losses, Loma won the final round once (Salido) and lost it twice (Lopez, Haney) with the latter (Haney) being very much a nip-and-tuck type of affair.
     
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