Bernard Hopkins could defeat Wladimir and this is why!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jeff M, Mar 17, 2009.


  1. emrose

    emrose New Member Full Member

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    hopkins fighting klitcho sounds absoloutly crazy, a former middleweight fighting huge heavy not to mention his age, most people will doubt that this fight could be allowed to happen and that he could win would be very doubful, but if hopkins put his mind to it and every1 doubted him (like mant times before) i wouldnt count him out completly, hes got somethin in him that wants to prove people wrong and beat the odds, however this would be the biggest odds hed have to beat.

    if he beats ademac this will be the biggest challenge the pinnacle of the sport, so it wouldnt surprise me if he aims for this.
     
  2. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    i am the same age as hopkins , to put on 35lbs of muscle i would need to eat huge calories a day 6,000 plus at least i would have thought and train for what 5 hours plus a day with weights , without doing hardly any cardio work and still fit in boxing training and sharpness around this.

    dont no about anyone else but what about recovery time , when you are in your 40`s it takes longer/hurts a lot more /and you get pulls and strains much easier , i do not know how long he could actually lift weights in a day for before reaching his limit.

    david haye for example a big 6.3 /200lb fighter/boiling down to cruiser to make weight /fights at 215 at heavy and is very small.

    unless we say hopkins comes in at 185 or so ?

    as to style wise/ when hopkins back peddals/sets his trap/looking for the right hand lead counter when his opponent follows him in, it wont happen/

    wlad will tower over him, be able to jab and move back from way outside a range that hopkins is used to having his fighters be at.

    most of his career hopkins has been the taller fighter, only tarver had 1 inch on him that i remember.

    he will be giving away so much height /strength/size / that he wouldhave to get on his bike and turn it into a marathon.

    i think hopkins can go to cruiser and beat adamek/styles make fights /adamek is a light heavy who has moved up/

    wlad is just to big/quick/good/and has to many advantages for hopkins style to win/
     
  3. emrose

    emrose New Member Full Member

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    :nono :fire :nono
     
  4. HauntingTheHoly

    HauntingTheHoly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nice try, dip****.
     
  5. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    wlad is a heavy
    he has very good skills for a heavy.

    if hopkins fought wlad at heavy it would not be a match up of what hopkins has as a light heavy it would be a match up of heavyweights .
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Wow....if this doesn't confirm what an idiot Jeff M is....
     
  7. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Back in the day guys Bernards size regularly competed with guys Wlad's size, give or take an inch or 10 pounds.. With mixed results.
     
  8. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    bob foster a 6.5 murderous punhing light heavy punches bounced off heavies

    james toney has 1 ko win in his heavyweight career.

    evander holyfield i think has stopped 4 heavyweights in all the time he has been at heavy.

    i do not think hopkins will have the power at heavy to keep heavies honest/his speed/skill/lateral movement will give soe problems , but hopkins right hand lead and grab hold 300 times in the 12 rounds at heavy will lead to the men outweighing him by 50lb mauling him/and tiring hopkins out while taking nothing out of themselves.

    they will be able to manhandle him in the clinches and hopkins loves a clinch.
     
  9. Baby Bull

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    Wlad is one dimensional with a pawing jab and no inside ability whatsover. Its unusual cos he's always fought the best (till haye) but because the heavyweight division has so little talent that Wlad hasen't learned anything. B-Hop could easily exploit these and frustrate Wlad, but he would have to be wary of a right.
     
  10. Slider75

    Slider75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If these two guys get in the ring against each other, people will find out why there are such thing as weight-classes:roll: Wlad is a natural huge and muscular guy, seriously doubt he can get under 220 lbs! This wont be a Jones vs Ruiz II! it would simply be suicide for Hopkins!
     
  11. emrose

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    good point, i dont think floyd patterson would be naturally much bigger than b-hop, trditionally the lighter hevies were the domunate heavyweights, fighters like ali, marciano, louis.
     
  12. ripper13

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    doubt it if b-hop can pull off this one, wlad's physical advantages coupled with the excess weight that bernard will carry in the ring plus the question if his power can get the respect of a HW will make this a very diffucult, if not impossible, fight to win for bernanrd
     
  13. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It seems that the message board has turned into a science fiction one.
     
  14. emrose

    emrose New Member Full Member

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    yes heavy weight is a different planet, but i woulnt count out the old man yet, klit will have all the adv. hight stenght reach weight, but one thing hop has is ability and determination, that would be the determining factor, weather he can overcome these disavantages with skill and heart.

    one thing if hopkins fights and beats ademak this fight very easliyl sells itself, if theres huge money involved could this fight be a possility? or even a fight with davis haye
     
  15. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    when 200lb floyd patterson met a tiny 215lb / 6.1 heavy by todays standards he got in a clinch with sonny liston and was kocked out by liston clubbing him and roughing him up in the clinch in the first round i think it was.

    nothing patterson could do, liston was just to powerfull/big and physically strong for him to handle.