Bernard Hopkins: higher on ATG list than Floyd and Manny?

As highly as I rate Hopkins both Pacquiao and Mayweather are two very special fighters that I have to rank slightly higher based on one's excellent resume and the others unbeaten dominance over so many weight classes.

 

LOL? Can't tell if serious :think

Anyhow, BHOP > FLOYD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PAC

Pac has fought nobody at WW besides Bradley. All of his other fights were against washed up, drained, and/or shot/old fighters. He has a few losses, including 3 versus JMM, and is dodging drug tests like the plague.

Manny Pacquiao is NOT an ATG. HOF for sure, but definitively not an ATG. He has to beat Floyd or a fighter in their prime to get ATG status. Losing to a 39 y/o JMM and then rematching him at 40 isn't helping his case.

Aside from the trolls, BHOP has fought better competition on a more consistent basis and has moved up and down weight fighting nothing but champions. Floyd is more skilled than BHOP, but I think Floyd's a marquee fight or two shy of being higher than BHOP on ATG list.

If Floyd fights any of Sergio/Canelo/Manny - and wins decisively, I'll give him the nod over BHOP.

 

Definitely not Pac.

May? Maybe.

Don't put too much stock into the Pascal win. Pascal is a good fighter, nothin more. Winnin a lineal title at 46 is big, but look at the guy he beat for it. It ain't the stats, it's the names.

 

Cotto was a shot fighter at a catchweight when manny fought him.

Manny has yet to beat JMM

Hatton was long shot when manny fought him (Hatton was getting beat the **** up prior to fighting Manny by journeymen)

If your 5 fights are indicative of Manny's best performances, then this guy is questionably even a HOF'r.

 

If Manny didn't make all the demands, catchweights, fighting guys coming off bad defeats i would've rated him over Floyd.

 

No wonder you love Hopkins, you're a ****ing moron who doesn't know the difference b/w a CHAMPIONSHIP and a trinket.

Dip****.

 

Lower than Pac, about equal with Floyd.

 

Who decides what a championship is? You? Give me a ****ing break you thick **** atsch

And as I recall you're the same guy who thought that Archie Moore not Hopkins was the oldest ever world champion and also hilariously claimed that there had been 5000 undisputed world champions.

 

A Champion is someone who is the undisputed #1 man in the division. Not someone who beats ****ing Segundo Mercado. Dip**** Hopkins fans like you- same mother****ers who make Antwun Echols out to be Tommy Hearns.

 

No that's a lineal champion dumbass, a champion is merely a fighter holding one of the major straps which the IBF title most definitely is. ****ing hell just how stupid are you? This isn't the 50's where there 1 champion in each division. Also nice fake claim with the Tommy Hearns Echols comparison another fail on your part, no wonder you thought there have been 5000 undisputed champions :rofl:rofl

Just give it a rest already you lemming, don't you think you've embarrassed yourself enough for one life time:nut

 

Floyd
Manny
(pretty big gap)
Hopkins

Their careers are still going, so anything can happen in terms of them going up or down on a theoretically ATG list. I don't think Hopkins can really lower his "legacy" since he's almost 50 and I don't think anyone would even hold a KO1 loss to Shumenov against him at this point.

 

You know what old Jack Burton always says about the longevity between Pacquiao, Mayweather and Hopkins, don't you?

 

No.

 

Behind Floyd, in front of Manny.