Bernard Hopkins is a better fighter than Roy Jones

1. It is far from a bull**** offer. However many millions of dollars that would have been would surly have been more than he got for fighting Carl Daniels. Would it not?

2. It would have been Hopkins best chance to beat Roy. So why not grasp it rather than fight a nobody for significantly less money?

 

In round 4 of fight # 3, we saw what a mentally confident RJJ would look like all fight long against Tarver ! But he had lost all confidence in the ring and was gunshy at that point !

If RJJ would have fought Tarver, Johnson or B-Hop before fighting Ruiz...the result would have been a UD win for ROY... 9 times out of 10 !

 

This is all complete bull****. It's the same excuse laiden stuff that you see from people defending Roy.

 

Hopkins is a man of principal. He's not about to fight for less than he's worth. The fight with Roy was worth more than what Roy was offering.

 

Hopkins turned down an offer that was reasonable, would have been a carrer high pay day and chose to fight nobodies till he fought an undersized De La Hoya and finally Taylor.

Too bad so sad. Is his own fault.

 

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A man of principals..please don't make us cry...I guess that's why he didn't respect the promise he made to his mother that he'd be retired by now !!!

Hopkins and RJJ are both stubborn huge egos...but the fact is RJJ had a win in the bank against B-Hop and was still the P4P #1...So when you really want to avenge a loss, know you can win and are sure of making the biggest pay by far of your career, you take the damn fight in a hurry with a 60-40 split !! Once you win, then you're the man and the money is pouring in !!!

Cherifi and Daniels did **** all for his wallet and legacy...Guess Hopkins was ready to fight for less he's worth...

 

You need to watch Bhop vs RJJ seriously. Bhop not so different, how was he ''green'', he already had a belt...

Lets face it, RJJ is just too hot to handle at 160 and 168.

 

LMAO Hopkins fans are tryn'a make it seem like he was given a horrible offer that isn't worth the fight but the real offer was 60 to the winner 40 to the loser, That's F*****N good offer if you ask me and all fights should be like that, would make you want to fight that much more to make that extra 10% which probably would add up to like half a mill or somethin

 

B-Hop ALWAYS had the reputation as a 'dirty' fighter, way before he got old.

 

All good points, and I am a big B-Hop fan (despite being a Calzaghe fan too), but I think RJJ was the greater fighter. At his very best, he was just a special fighter, maybe even a top 10 of all-time on ability, the best guy ever to fight at 168 h2h, and had a great career with many titles and achievements, and great wins over Hopkins, Toney, Hill, and Ruiz (ok, it was Ruiz, but the size difference and the achievement made it great IMO). Hopkins isn't far behind, as he has a great record (unfairly criticized by many), was a true old-fashioned middleweight King 2001-2005, and had quality wins over G.Johnson, De La Hoya, Wright, Trinidad and Tarver (the last two are especially underrated. He jumped 2 weight divisions at 40+ and dominated the linear LHW champion. That is special. And IMO Trinidad is a criminally underrated win, the jewel in the crown, a masterclass). Anyway as I said, it's close, but RJJ gets it on natural ability for me.

 

well Holmes couldn't figure out Tyson and Holyfield did, does that mean Holyfield is better than Holmes?

 

I'm going to go so far as to say prime Roy beats prime Bhop chicken style hands behind the back KO.

 

You are selectively omitting the fact the Hopkins also wanted Roy to drop down to a catch weight for that fight too.

Come on, pimp. You know dayum well Hopkins was totally unreasonable in his demands for a rematch, considering how little actual leverage he had.

 

No it means Holmes was older then dirt.