Bernard Hopkins is a TOP 10 ATG.

Yes, what someone thinks that doesn't know ****. And you will sit there, listen, and realize that you don't know ****. And that's what you get for opening your mouth about something you don't know **** about.

Now begone.

 

Hopkins struggled with fast two handed fighters his own size, ie Jones, Taylor, Calzaghe, Pascal, Dawson.
Hopkins had a style weakness and was clearly beaten by Calzaghe, even looking for a way out by the look of things

Almost everyone that scored the fight for Hopkins is lying to themselves and others. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

Here are some solid facts
1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.

 

the bold proves that you have no idea what the hell you're talking about

the rest i did not read on the merits of the bold.


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past prime calzaghe did beat past prime X,also prime calzaghe beats prime X. too much movemant, non stop barrage of punches flying everywhere to the upper body. calz speed and also power was superior than hopkin's.

most say calzaghe is no top 20 atg, than X shouldn't be around 20 and definitly not around 10. around 30-40 is good for X, as for calzaghe 30-20, would he be an american than 20-10

also, didnt a slightly past prime, arguably still in his prime bernard hopkins lose to jermaine taylor, who was overrated as hell and got blitzed away by every top super middleweight boxer there is? calzaghe in a p4p sense, same weight, same size, would have never lost to an boxer like taylor, no way.

 

If you don't have Jones over Hopkins you DKSAB.

Keith

 

Top 40 for me, maybe top 30.

Keith

 

easy now.

1) Bernard Hopkins defended his IBF title a record 20 times, beating the previous record of 14. Hopkins is the longest reigning MW champ of all time from Mercudo to Taylor Hopkin's was after that IBF title.

2) I wont say it was a big robbery on the level of Abril - Rios, however IMO Hopkins won the fight it was a close SD.

3) Hopkins is the first man to hold all major titles at the same time, that is fact.

**** you on about, your a nas stan and you discussing Boxing. Man you call Hopkins the #11 at MW, name me 10 MW who have better MW resume than BHop. BHop is a legend at MW.

 

Iam not that the dumb ass who ranked Canelo above Hopkins jackass if you knew half as much as you thought you did maybe you can boast but until u know ur **** u aint ****

 

This :deal

 

Carlos Monzon
Holman Williams
Charles Burley
Marvin Hagler
Sugar Ray Robinson
Bob Fitzsimmons
Stanley Ketchel
Mickey Walker
Harry Greb
Dick Tiger

Easy.

 

The fact that you consider beating an anonymous fighter for an IBF title a real middleweight championship is all I need to know that you are wrapped in delusion and ignorance.

After Jones left, Hopkins wanted nothing to do with Jones again until he was a ghost of his former self. Then built a career on a pathetically poor group of fighters, so poor that according to Hopkins fans beating Antwun Echols is a legendary victory. Nevermind that everyone and their mother has beating Echols.

But hey, a career feasting on Carl Daniels, Steve Frank, Bo Lipsey, Morrade Haakar, Andrew Council, and a trilogy with Robert Allen where he quit once, then waited for welterweights to move up is good enough to best someone like Mickey Walker who defeated five hall of fame opponents and routinely fought larger opponents.

 

Realsoulja claims to be a historian , but only knows Hopkins because he is still fighting, he was only a child when Hopkins first became MW champ and has to watch Youtube and Boxrec to get any idea of who the fighters are/were

 

Hes in the top 40 at best but mos def not in the top 10 period. There's like 20
That came to my mind off the top of my head when I read the post title and bhop wasn't one of them

 

Top 50, maybe top 40.

Slightly behind Floyd.