Bernard Hopkins is an OLD SCHOOL "THROWBACK" - he reminds me of ....

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  1. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    ...... Phaintin' Phil Scott ! :lol:

    The old school master of faking low blows. :good
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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    Good old experienced Nard don't need no Dundee cutting gloves, Panama sneaking black bottles or the like. Such a complete fighter in every respect :D
     
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  3. pryorgatti

    pryorgatti Active Member Full Member

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    lol... the craftiest guy in the sport
     
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  4. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Crafty or dirty? There is a difference.
    And has the man ever congratulated /praised an opponent he lost to,or admitted he was wrong?
    Even hagler congratulated leonard after their 87 bout....
    Calzaghe does not make the decisions,the judges do.....
     
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  5. Manassa

    Manassa - banned

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    Hopkins was embarrassing last night. Actually, there's no change there, he always is.
     
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  6. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dear thread: what are your opinions of Fritzie Zivic? Harry Greb?
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    bernard really covered himself in glory ,or was it his knees with resin?
     
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  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nard used every trick he could as a 43yo Old Pro to be as successful in the fight. 43yos just dont have the same stamina so when low blowed (and he was low blowed) he took full advantage of a rest. It makes complete tactical sense. Sometimes boxing is about being smart to win. Oh and BHOPs won
     
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  9. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    throwback or throwup.
     
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  10. Lobotomy

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    They could get away with it. Great magicians, escapists and illusionists can do that. As such an artist, Bernie NardEx ranks right there with Carl "The" Amazing Ballantine.

    I'm having flashbacks to when Arguello pinned Pryor against the ropes in their rematch, and Alexis pounding away at Aaron's gonads while the Hawk was pulling his head down, and LAUGHING at Arguello's desperate attempts to hurt him! (There was no black bottle in Pryor's corner in Vegas, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had somebody inject his nuts with novocain before coming out.)
     
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  11. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    Great fighters.
    Phaintin' Phil was THE MAN when it came to faking low blows though. (Or so boxing lore would have it.)
     
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  12. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    Smart, yes.

    Still, he faked or grossly exaggerated any effect that slightly low blow would have had, in my opinion.

    Just like Phaintin' Phil who used the same tactic to win fights when the old foul rule allowed DQ on such single accidental fouls.

    And I agree, Hopkins won on my card. (And I'm a Brit who HATES Hopkins' recent style of fighting).
     
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  13. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    If 'throwbacks' all fought with his style then the Classic Boxing Forum wouldn't exist (or it would with about two members). Imagine, Jim Jacobs' fight film collection: Great Feints of the Century? Give us Zale-Graziano any day. :good
     
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  14. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dirty if he is blatant with it, crafty if he successfully implements it - the latter rings true with Hopkins. But really, his judgement of distance, his tucked away chin on the left shoulder and that wonderfully high right hand is boxing technique at its finest - he is almost too casual with how he exploits others flaws and is lacking that fire he had 5 years ago.

    Was surprised to not see as much of that fire from Bernard in the post-fight interview considering how close a fight it was.
     
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  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Dose it really matter that Hopkins was 43?

    He was clearly the best light heavyweight in the world at the time whatever his age, and coming off two of the best wins of his career.

    There have been ocasions throughout history when the best fighter in a given weight class was over 40, such as Archie Moore, and frankly it has not always been in weak eras.

    In such cases a young challenger must go through the 40+ champion to estaablish his supremacy over the division and if he is sucesfull then it is still a legacy defining win because he has beaten the best available opponent.

    I would also point out that anybody who picked Hopkins to win this fight ccan hardly deny Calzaghe credit for this win because he has clearly exceeded their expectations.
     
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