Bernard Hopkins legacy

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    This is an extract of Beyond The Glory covering Bernard Hopkins.

    You don't have to like his style, you can say he beat up on smaller men throughout his career, but he deserves credit from picking himself up out of prison to where he is now. Respect.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=qez12iiSWy4&feature=related
     
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  2. TFFP

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    His resume is grossly overrated, his style is horrible recently compared to his earlier days, he is a total cheating twat, but that is the one thing I admire about him.
     
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  3. Meridius

    Meridius New Member Full Member

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    the highest paid, most boring fighter
     
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  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I don't have the energy to explain in detail why these comments aren't relevant.
     
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  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Hopkins has alot of high risk / low reward fights on his resume. The type of fighters that cause upsets. He doesn't get enough credit for these wins. Its not easy to have all 4 belts and keep them. Not many fighters could
     
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  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I'm not even a fan of Bernard Hopkins. Never particuarly enjoyed his style, thought he was thoroughly beaten by Calzaghe, but the man deserves credit. A great champion, and he came from the gutter.
     
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  7. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and to think it all ended by getting buggared by calzaghe.....:rofl
     
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  8. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Why would Hopkins even be consdier for the HOF if people feel he's grossly overrated ?
     
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  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    because there are people who feel that Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammed Ali are grossly overrated, should they also be exempt for that reason?
     
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  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    His legacy is as a Middleweight. (Top 15?)
    Everything else is just topping on the cake.
     
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  11. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Very true indeed !
     
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  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Those people who's only objective is to discredit real great fighters are the same people who don't matter.

    The point of this thread wasn't neccesarily to debate whether or not Bernard Hopkins is as good as his resume suggest, but to credit the man for achieving what very little people do. He was reformed in a big way.
     
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  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    top 3
     
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  14. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i admire him but he was the highest paid most really boring boxer of alltime

    though

    to still be a force in the boxing in your early 40's takes some doing. he deserves to be called a great
     
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  15. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Hopkins legacy is that he's the most dominant champion in the history of one of boxing's greatest divisions, he's the only man to knockout Trinidad, the only man to knockout De La Hoya, the only man to knockout Glen Johnson, one of only two undisputed Middleweight champions ever to capture the Lightheavyweight crown, the oldest Middleweight champion ever, the oldest man to win the Lightheavyweight belt, the only man to be the WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO/RING champion at the same time, and to defend those belts simultaneously in a single fight.
    That's a great legacy, whether he became boring in his late 30's and on doesn't matter, it's the legacy of an ATG. And to say he just beat up on smaller men, look at the best wins of Hagler and Monzon:
    Hagler: Duran (lightweight), Hearns (welterweight), Mugabi (Jr. Middleweight).
    Monzon: Griffith (Welter), Napoles (Welter), and Benvenuti (Jr. Middle).

    I'm not saying he's greater than either one, but he's right there with both of them.
     
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