Bernard Hopkins: Pacquiao Won Nine Rounds, Eight Easy, NO WAY Pacquiao Lost!

It was easy to score. Only the first four and last two rounds were even somewhat close. The other six rounds clearly belonged to Pacquiao.

 

Lol!

I'm not even going to argue over this.

What's more over 80% of the boxing community saw it for Pacquiao.

Boxing is incredibly corrupt and it's history is absolutely littered with bent officiating and robberies.

Pacquiao Horn was a clear and blatant robbery. Your opinion, for what it's worth, is very much in the minority.

 

That's exactly right. If your made up figures are right then 80 percent of the boxing community can't score a fight. That doesn't mean they are right just because they all agree. It was a clearly the right decision. Calling it a robbery is ridiculous.

 

But you, of course, are completely right I suppose?

And there is no corruption in boxing.

Ridiculous!

Do a little research and you'll soon discover that my figures are not "made up". Over 80% of trainers, fighters and boxing pundits all saw it for Pacquiao.

You are entitled to your misguided opinions, but personally, I just can't take you seriously.

 

I think it was more like 55-45 as far as how people saw it, although I only saw like one poll here right afterwards. With Bradley vs Pacquiao it was a lot more clear cut and like 95 percent saw it for Pacquiao.

 

There are several polls online including fan polls. Most of them come out at around 80%.

THere are also plenty of videos and other commentary from pro boxers and such most of whom saw it for Pacquiao.

In anycase, all that aside. I know what I saw. I watched it twice.

Some fights can be difficult to watch with close rounds and be tricky to score, but I thought this was pretty clear and easy to see.

How did you see it?

 

The poll at Ring website has it around 75% for Pac. People who scores for horn were just haters, or as you suspect it DKSAScoring.

 

Well, this is interesting. I went looking for some polling results on who won.
Bad Left Hook
78% Manny, 15% Horn, 6% Draw
https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/7/2/15910138/how-did-you-score-pacquiao-vs-horn

Scene
60% Manny, 12% Horn, 28% Draw
https://www.*******.com/forums/showthread.php?t=751087

 

There is also this poll, all boxing people:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwikiKWZpZHVAhXGJMAKHcLTBLcQFggiMAA&url=http://www.punditarena.com/boxing/jmurphy/press-scores-manny-pacquiao-vs-jeff-horn-tell-need-know/&usg=AFQjCNH3lYFAiXMGxgOq1eUzE6zILcgnJA

55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw

 

Pacquiao vs Horn
R1 10-9 Horn Horn somewhat awkward, Manny off not adapted yet, Horn aggressive knocks mouthpiece out.
R2 10-9 Pacquiao Close. Horn being aggressive young and strong. Not a lot landing. Lot of clinching. Pacquiao landed a good left hand so I'll give it to him. Could use more infighting. Pacquiao slightly better at timing this round. Trying to counter punch.
R3 10-9 Pacquiao landing more cripser shots. Horn still trying but being more cautious easing up his pressure.
R4 10-9 Pacquiao figured him out and is outlanding him whenever Horn moves in. Conditioning may play a factor late in the fight, also Horn is noticeably bigger.
R5 10-9 Pacquiao teeing off like he did against Alghieri, throwing less landing more doubling connects.
R6 10-9 Pacquiao Good uppercut and smothering of Pacquiao on the ropes by Horn. Accidental clash of heads and bleeding from Manny down his chest from his scalp. Wow, he's bleeding a lot. Pacquiao lulled into a false sense of security and Horn lands two good quick shots. Mostly Pac playing the matador though.
R7 10-9 Pacquiao Another headbutt, another cut. They are so awkward that this is getting messy. Pacquiao landing way more but his face is a bloody mask. He looks like a gored bull.
R8 10-9 Pacquiao Pacquiao punch pushed Horn down not ruled a knockdown.
R9 10-9 Pacquiao Pacquiao is swinging for the fences smelling blood chasing Horn around the ring. Nice. That eye of Horn's is bleeding and doesn't look good. Love it!
R10 10-9 Pacquiao Pacquiao is tired and taking the round off after expending all that energy. I'm not sure if I should give it to him even though Horn didn't do much either.
R11 10-10 Even More headlocks than punches land.
R12 10-9 Horn Horn outhustling Pac.

 

Pretty much how I saw it.

I think most people saw it that way.

We should also factor in the number of butts, elbows and headlocks. Horn should have been warned and had points taken away.

Horn got away with it all. Fighters have been DQ'd for less.

 

Wow, that really soothes my ego a bit. I thought I was going crazy when everyone around here was saying Horn won wide and I had it real wide for Pacquiao. I wonder what was so peculiar about Boxingforum24 that so many people on here saw the fight going Horn's way. Maybe, we have a lot of British posters who watched the Boxnation feed.

 

Marquez had one win in a fight he was losing He knew he got lucky
3-1-1 to Paquaio

 

Maybe.

I also think there are a lot of Mayweather fans on this forum who have a cognitive bias against Pacquiao going back to the Mayweather Pacquiao rivalry which built up before they fought. They just can't say anything positive about him.

Who knows why they saw it for Horn. I genuinely think that a lot of fans just don't know how to score a fight. Like I say it can be tricky sometimes, particularly when its close, but this was fairly clear and easy to see.

 

That poll of sportswriters came out 82%Pacquiao, 10%Horn, and 8%Draw, roughly how the guys at Bad Left Hook saw it. The Scene saw it 60%Pacquiao but Horn's numbers didn't rise they just saw Draw go up 20%. This is like the only place where people were cool with Horn winning. By the way, I found that poll from here I mentioned earlier. It had 54%Pacquiao and 46%No robbery without a Horn or Draw option.
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/did-pacman-get-robbed.589777/